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YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by DrJones1098 »

atleta wrote: post #449
quotemstr wrote: post #385

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You can't properly understand something if you can't question it. When you elevate any idea to unquestionable capital-T Truth, you blind yourself to the actual truth. You break the only mechanism we've ever discovered for figuring out how the world actually works. Censorship of anything is the enemy of human progress and always has been.

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Well established scientific concensus.

If you're referring to anything related to Covid there's no well-established scientific consensus it literally just happened around year and a half ago it's impossible to have scientific consensus.

Even the most respected scientists are saying they don't know about a lot of things related to covid.

also well-established scientific consensus is not an ideal goal post .

Galileo was excommunicated.

Labotomies won the Nobel prize.

Nothing is certain in life when human beings are involved no matter how comforting that thought is. There is only a narrative of certainty.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by iab »

will4274 wrote: post #339
iab wrote: post #301

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Ok - can someone explain to me how this is funny? Use small words please, I want to understand

Nascar is a sport where people drive cars in circles really fast. A reporter was interviewing a driver after he drove the fastest. The drivers name was Brandon. The crowd was chanting so loud it was louder than her interview. The reporter said that the crowd seemed very supportive because they were chanting "Let's go Brandon." The crowd was very obviously not chanting "Let's go Brandon." The crowd was chanting "Fuck…

This was actually illuminating

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by crazy_horse »

bko wrote: post #470
crazy_horse wrote: post #457

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> The First Amendment has been interpreted by the Court as applying to the entire federal government even though it is only expressly applicable to Congress. Furthermore, the Court has interpreted the Due Process Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment as protecting the rights in the First Amendment from interference by state governments. [0] On your other point, I don't see how "they've always done that" means its not a…

Thanks for the feedback, I knew there was more to it bu it's interesting that's a later interpretation (presumably the didn't imagine the executive would have so much power).

The point I was making with the theorist stuff is this song falls right into prime Q, the government is killing us territory. If YouTube, years after giving those people platforms and building them up has decided that doesn't fit their values or the values of their advertisers that's how it works.

I'm just not sure that conservatives really want to die on this hill with Kyrie Irving and the flat earthers.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by gremloni »

sharklazer wrote: post #388
fabianhjr wrote: post #203

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I don't understand the allegories to feudalism when jesters who crossed a line weren't censored but executed. (I would guess specially if they expressed or supported any sort of anti-monarchy or anti-their-monarchs viewpoints)

Actually, it was a chief job of the jester to cross the line when other members of the court could not. Jesters, as all court members, had a natural fear of execution, but probably not any higher than any of the other courtiers.

He had a slightly different line, but got executed if he crossed that one.

Re: YouTube deletes rapper's 'Let's Go Brandon' song claiming medical misinformation

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Post by jquery »

ggdG wrote: post #291
franga2000 wrote: post #259

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The quote is calling the statement "the vaccine will stop the spread of covid" a lie. That statement can be a lie only if the vaccine can not stop the spread. An overly optimistic prediction wouldn't be a lie, so the quote must be calling the vaccine ineffective at best. Regardless of whether the pandemic is over or not, the statement isn't a lie and therefore the quote is incorrect. The vaccine significantly slows t…

> The vaccine significantly slows ths spread Based on what data do you come to that conclusion? The vaccination rate of a country is not correlated with its covid infection rate: https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s10654-021-00808-7 And after 3 months of being fully vaccinated, people are just as likely to spread the virus as unvaccinated people: https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02689-y From the arti…

Too many confounding variables. As vaccines increase immunity, protective measures such as mask wearing and social distancing and travel restrictions are dropped, increasing spread. There’s also the inverse effect where increased spread leads to higher vaccination rates.

Across different countries the testing methodologies are too different to meaningfully compare with.

Finally your last paragraph only applies if the vaccinated person gets infected with delta in the first place (in other words has a breakthrough infection).

95% of COVID-19 deaths are happening among the unvaccinated right now, you’re spreading FUD about what’s basically a miracle.

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Post by crazy_horse »

barnesto wrote: post #469
crazy_horse wrote: post #457

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Trump was removed from all forms of social media, but tell us how you hate conservatives and their empty rhetoric. Guess that also means that the Trump administration was in close contact with the tech companies to ensure they banned him.

He was removed when he wouldn't just give up power like a normal loser, but he sure as hell prodded them for 4 years and it sure as hell got him elected.

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Post by Retric »

rajin444 wrote: post #427
Retric wrote: post #412

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We don’t actually care about infections, we care about the things infections cause. A single virus infecting a single cell is an infection, what happens after that depends on the immune system. Antibodies are supposed to stick around briefly after an infection to minimize the risks of reinfection. For near lifetime immunity as provided by the measles vaccine it comes down to memory B cells which drastically speed up…

GP was referring to a limited subset of data that gives an incorrect picture of what the R0 is. I was trying to point out why that data is the wrong set to draw a meaningful number from. I’m not sure what you’re trying to point out, sorry!

Yea, I skipped that part of your comment as meaningless. RO excludes vaccinations and prior infections by definition.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basic_reproduction_number

In epidemiology, the basic reproduction number, or basic reproductive number (sometimes called basic reproduction ratio or basic reproductive rate), denoted R 0 R_{0} (pronounced R nought or R zero),[1] of an infection is the expected number of cases directly generated by one case in a population where all individuals are susceptible to infection.[2] The definition assumes that no other individuals are infected or immunized (naturally or through vaccination). Some definitions, such as that of the Australian Department of Health, add the absence of "any deliberate intervention in disease transmission".

I assume your concerned about transmission, but that’s not a constant when you include vaccinations reducing infection severity.

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Post by rajin444 »

YZF wrote: post #450
rajin444 wrote: post #395

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You're looking at presented cases and hospitalizations - a fraction of a fraction of total covid infections. There's no way this accurately reflects R0 (assuming that's what you're talking about - sorry if I'm wrong!). And determining the impact vaccines have on R0 is nearly impossible - there's too many unknown unknowns that would confound it. For example, if a flu vaccine was administered at the end of a seasonal p…

First let's deal with the nitpicky semantics. R0 is is the basic reproduction number while R generally denotes the effective reproduction number. I am talking about R. There's indisputable evidence that the vaccination is impacting R. While it's true that the accuracy of estimates for R depends on many factors and certainly there have always been some cases flying under the radar (though that has been studied extensi…

> There's indisputable evidence that the vaccination is impacting R

> Ofcourse we can't tell anything with certainty in this domain

Which one is it?

I'm sorry - there are issues with nearly all the links and data you've provided, but I don't have the time to go through them with you.

I agree with you that the vaccine is very likely impacting R. I don't agree that it is enough to matter yet - we could vaccinate everyone and covid would still spread. The vaccines will keep people from dying. Any more benefit than that is still unclear.

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