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Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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Truckers are leaving containers all over Los Angeles.[1] Allowing stacking over 2 high is only useful if you have the equipment to stack over 2 high. A place that just stacks empty containers 2 high probably only has large forklifts. The special equipment for high stacking is far more expensive, and only bought if you need it.[2] A more useful proposal is a "peel pile".[3] This is a system which assigns outgoing truc…

The driver has a cellphone no?

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

#112

Why wasn't the federal government doing this? How hard would it have been for the new "shipping czar" to have gone down there and seen what at least one simple issue was and get it fixed?

People are waking up and realizing that government is pretty useless for specific action. Our representatives would rather pontificate about vague niceties.

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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What I would like to know is how it ever got to this breaking point? Is there no planning for such cases or continuous optimization? Or were plans presented to the government which just sat on it until it was too late?

My mental model is that regulations are decided on through a political process, and then no one looks at them until it becomes a political issue again.

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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post #5

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How is crisis management supposed to go? What would have been a preferable source of this change?

If it was a high leverage decision, you would have hoped one of the officials appointed to fix the situation would have already noticed and fixed it. So either they are completely incompetent or the decision didn't matter much.

> one of the officials appointed to fix the situation

Genuine question: Are there actual officials appointed to fix the situation? If so, who are they?

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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post #89

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> If someone built a gigantic apartment complex next to your house it would mean that the demand for housing in your neighborhood was massive or it could mean a developer was very stupid to overbuild somewhere, or more likely it's a shell building used as a money laundering scheme for organized crime (See https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/nov/17/trump-ocean-... for one such building built by Trump; such buildi…

If a developer is stupid to overbuild, then let them take that risk and that loss. We don't have to zone away risk. As for money laundering, you're using an example of one Trump Tower out of millions of apartments buildings to say it's "more likely" that every apartment building built is just used for money laundering. That's just silly. As for structural safety, no one is arguing to reduce building codes or safety r…

i meant "more likely" than a developer who is stupid. There's lots of buildings that are built for cynical, non-market related reasons.

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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Roads, bridges, are already overwhelmed with traffic, and we have 1/2 of congress preventing federal spending on infrastructure -- this will be the next bottleneck... I keep hearing about a 60,000 trucker shortage, but with us "long haul" trucker count @ around 1/2 a million, that will only add another 10% capacity... from what I've seen traveling the USA on interstates, 10% more trucks would be INSANE overload... th…

Remember than the vast majority of the "infrastructure" bill is for "social infrastructure" and that the lesser amount of funding for the physical infrastructure is still subject to the contracting, procurement, environmental, safety, and other regulations at the federal, state, and local levels - all of which needs to be navigated before any actual work begins. By the time that is done, there won't be much left for materials and labor.

Re: Long Beach has temporarily suspended container stacking limitations

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Just no. Zoning is extremely important. You should not be allowed to build a factory in the middle of a neighborhood next to a school. There are certainly bad zoning laws but to say they are all bad is just ignorant nonsense.

Why not? It sounds like you think this is obvious, but it isn’t to me. I live in an area with occasional grandfathered-in exceptions to zoning rules. There’s a cafe run out of a house, and a butcher shop run on a residential street corner between houses. And its absolutely lovely! I would have no problem with people making things (“a factory”) next to a school.

Even if there are businesses that you don’t want, it can be solved outside of broad strokes zoning.
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