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I’d go further, and say that the data should be exportable in a predefined format (ideally an open standard), so that investigators can use 3rd party tools to investigate any make of ‘smart car’.
In the first place, the owners of the cars should have full read access to all data that their car generates.
I just read some Dutch news sources to get some more context. Some things to know: Tesla hands over all requested data in case of an investigation. But only the requested data. Because we now know what data is stored more data can and will be requested in the future. The crash was caused by the driver because he thought lane assistance was turned on but only adaptive cruise control was turned on. This caused the vehi…
Why would the request for "any and all data" not yield ALL of the data in the first place? Is it because you must request specific data? Is making a request for all data from the manufacturer not allowed? Am I missing something here?
* what personal information the organisation holds about them;
* how they are using it;
* who they are sharing it with; and
* where they got their data from.
https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copie...
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Thanks! And the conference publication with technical details: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/355202701_Reverse_e...
Couldn't find the DOI. Anyone?
Frankly I feel that for this kind of investication (car crashes and accidents) the manufacturer should be required to hand over all data relevant to the investigation. On device logs are probably the most relevant data you could get in these cases. That this lab decided to try to decipher the data, and found troves of it that wasn't known to exist before, speaks to how the relationship must be. They didn't trust Tesl…
I’d go further, and say that the data should be exportable in a predefined format (ideally an open standard), so that investigators can use 3rd party tools to investigate any make of ‘smart car’.
https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-data-port...
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Why would the request for "any and all data" not yield ALL of the data in the first place? Is it because you must request specific data? Is making a request for all data from the manufacturer not allowed? Am I missing something here?
If they are making a Subject Access Request under the GDPR (which they should be), then yes, Tesla should be providing: * what personal information the organisation holds about them; * how they are using it; * who they are sharing it with; and * where they got their data from. https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copie...
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I’d go further, and say that the data should be exportable in a predefined format (ideally an open standard), so that investigators can use 3rd party tools to investigate any make of ‘smart car’.
In the EU at least, GDPR got this covered: https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-data-port...
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So we're down to small UI differences on the dashboard, and having the driver notice the control forces...
…and multiple audio cues. Not being facetious, but aren’t audio, visual (=the dashboard), and touch (=control forces) the only ways a human is able to interact with a car? They could make the engagement or not of FSD more obvious in the UI, and maybe have spoken alerts? (Although at the moment there are so many audio alerts in a Tesla, I think it’s approaching saturation - the point where if everything is an alarm, t…
It’s one thing I’d wish they changed in the 3/Y.
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No, sadly there is no open source car avaiable (I think some designs exist, coming from univerisies, but nothing you could buy anywhere) I suppose consumers, tuners and repair shops would love it. But I do not see any big company ever going into that direction. It would be interesting, how it could avoid the patent madness. I assume EVERYTHING with cars is patented.
>But I do not see any big company ever going into that direction. IBM did that with PC architecture and it had profound impact on technology, business and world as a whole I believe.
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>But I do not see any big company ever going into that direction. IBM did that with PC architecture and it had profound impact on technology, business and world as a whole I believe.
It is my understanding that the impact came from the IBM compatible PCs that were reverse engineered to match that architecture.
That was only valuable because the rest was already open.
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Why would the request for "any and all data" not yield ALL of the data in the first place? Is it because you must request specific data? Is making a request for all data from the manufacturer not allowed? Am I missing something here?
If they are making a Subject Access Request under the GDPR (which they should be), then yes, Tesla should be providing: * what personal information the organisation holds about them; * how they are using it; * who they are sharing it with; and * where they got their data from. https://ico.org.uk/your-data-matters/your-right-to-get-copie...