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Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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It absolutely is taught in secondary education in the US. Heck, it's taught during elementary education. But you can't teach someone something unless they're willing to learn it. Post-secondary education doesn't help that.

Young children's brains aren't developed sufficiently to build these skills. Even a lot of high schoolers have difficulty with it. It's largely taught in post-secondary education because by then, the brain has matured enough to handle the cognitive load.

Tell me you haven't raised kids without saying you haven't raised kids. Mine have been critics since before they could speak.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

You can't have a mature dialog with people who don't believe facts.

At this point, some kind of mandatory deprogramming might be the only way to save those taken in by the crazy cult that the Republican party has transformed into.

They're essentially incapable of reason at this point.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

This is not really intellectually honest answer.

I really do not understand how it is possible to separate Parson from Republican Party in Missouri? They very very much the same.

It is like saying that Gavin Newsom is something different than Democrats in California.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I suppose I fall in the a republican camp so i'll bite. College is too expensive for what it gives. You gain a ton in maturity, soft skill building but unless you're in a STEM major, the material does not prepare you for the real world. Depending on what my kid wants to study, I will not be encouraging college. So much journalism is so insanely biased. I respectfully disagree to anyone who thinks Biden is treated the…

> I later got covid and only lost sense smell/taste for 4 days. Didn't feel the need to miss any work. Bruh. You went to work while you were sick with covid?

I am remote

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Practical answer? Because their vote in the ballot box is exactly as strong as any other voter's. From a pure realpolitik standpoint, alienating voters who can be convinced to do the right thing is just foolishness.

with all due respect there is almost no evidence that republican voters ever "switch sides". it's not a thing. these people aren't voting against their own in any useful numbers no matter what.

This is completely false. I personally know lifelong Republican voters who abandoned the party in 2016. They didn’t just leave the party, they voted D.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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> and the other party wants to prosecute the man who exposed the world to the dragnet surveillance being conducted by the NSA. I'm pretty sure both parties want that. Any successful system will work to perpetuate itself.

Show me a majority of democratic leaders wanting Ranked Voting, and I have a bridge to sell you, for example. Democrats and Republican leadership *want* the "good v evil" dichotomy of their party versus the other.

What does ranked voting have to do with Snowden?

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I served in the Georgia legislature during a portion of a similar story. Without a doubt, the calculations throughout the story were political not technical. In the Georgia version, the technical details of the exposed information in the Secretary of State's office were facepalmingly simple (misconfigured apache directives) yet the story dragged on politically for years. Quickly, a hired security researcher for a cor…

That's insane, thank you for your work.

It reminds me of this story in Iowa, where pentesters were arrested and charged with felonies for breaking into a courthouse they were hired to infiltrate:

https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/59/

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation. The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders. This has been ac…

It's futile to hope for anything constructive before destruction of polarization.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Interesting framing. Democrats seem to have taken “Science” to be a new type of religion. “Trust the science”, has been a catch phrase for the last 18 months. Science is fundamentally about skepticism, and democratic politicians/the media have commandeered its meaning to push their agenda. Many Covid-19 policy decisions based on “science” are not actually based on sound science, and it doesn’t seem like democratic po…

You don't do do science by being skeptical of things. You do it by asking questions and by developing experiments that can test the hypothesis within ethical bounds. How do you start to make these experiments where the outcomes could lead to an increase in deaths?
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