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Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by lancemurdock »

bavent wrote: post #197
lancemurdock wrote: post #125

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I suppose I fall in the a republican camp so i'll bite. College is too expensive for what it gives. You gain a ton in maturity, soft skill building but unless you're in a STEM major, the material does not prepare you for the real world. Depending on what my kid wants to study, I will not be encouraging college. So much journalism is so insanely biased. I respectfully disagree to anyone who thinks Biden is treated the…

Excessive money printing that also happened under an R admin? Freedom reducing laws like laws that limit the freedom to access a safe abortion? Or laws that limit the freedom to vote? What freedoms specifically? Increased taxes for who? Taxes were massively cut for wealthy people a couple years ago and the only proposal to raise them that got any traction recently didn’t even raise them back to the previous level - s…

All fair points on the money printing parts. I am well aware Trump printed trillions as well. I wasn't a fan then and not now.

state laws != federal laws. I am pro-choice but I think allowing states to make decisions for their own is good and the system is working as intended. I want states to have more freedom to legislate what their constituents want than a giant federal government making decisions for the whole nation.

The taxes proposed in the infrastructure bill are egregious. For the first time in my entire life I will make a decent amount of money this year and will bump right into top bracket. Giving the government over 50% is insane.

I never said covid wasn't a big deal, or that is wasn't a problem. Again, I said I took it seriously. But to have any sort of lockdowns/mandates at this point are not cool. Or make me choose between a job or some unnecessary medical treatment. the goal posts on vaccine metrics or herd immunity are constantly moved. No one talks about natural immunity. Biden has used excessively divisive language emboldening people who are pro vaccine to accost those who haven't received the vaccine.

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by VRay »

unsui wrote: post #306
thesagan wrote: post #228

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This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

> This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place What you're doing is called "pearl clutching", and is not adding in any constructive way to the conversation. The way we got here is intentionally by using divisive rhetoric to ellicit "engagement". Traditionally, this has been used politically by identifying wedge issues with the explicit intention to divide people along belief borders. This has been ac…

I wouldn't mind if this flame war got a little less engagement from some of its participants, personally

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by heavyset_go »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #99
abvdasker wrote: post #47

I'll risk making this a partisan issue and say the anti-intellectual and anti-science bent seems increasingly prevalent among Republicans like Mike Parson and their constituencies. One of the most shocking statistics I've seen recently is the Pew poll which shows that in the space of 2 years Republican attitudes about higher education saw a 20-point swing such that that most Republican voters now believe college is n…

Please don't make this a partisan issue. I live in Missouri. I've voted for Republicans in the past. You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right. It comes across as you posting this to make yourself feel good, and holy moly the sense of superiority from your camp needs a chill pill. Parson is evil. I'll be doing my duty as a citizen and trying to vote him out…

> You're alienating people like me from being on your side. It doesn't matter that you're probably right.

You're blaming other people for something that is 100% under your control. If you don't want to accept the truth because you don't like the types of people who share it, that's just spite on your part.

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Post by namdnay »

vadfa wrote: post #133
otterley wrote: post #69

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I largely agree with the sentiment that we need more plumbers than liberal arts graduates. One answer, though, is "why not be both?" Post-secondary education, regardless of the specific major a student chooses, does provide a significant benefit to society: especially in the early years, it teaches students how to think critically. Perhaps this skill could be taught earlier during secondary education, but at least in…

>especially in the early years, it teaches students how to think critically Is this a thing only in the US? I went to university in Europe and there were 0 subjects that were unrelated to the (STEM) degree I chose. It was all 100% technical stuff.

In the US and UK you can choose a (completely unrelated if you want) “minor” subject to broaden your horizons

Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by twox2 »

_fat_santa wrote: post #296
nrmitchi wrote: post #27

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This situation is keeping his name in the spotlight, and people will, in general, be more likely to vote for names that they recognize. I don't believe that there is any other reason here.

I have a strong feeling this will backfire spectacularly. To any technical or even semi-technical person, the facts of this case are laughable. The Governor thinks that he can steamroll this case through, and is betting that most will not understand the underlying technical details and give into the fear mongering "hacking" narrative. But the thing is, as soon as this goes to court, there is a 100% chance the EFF or…

It shouldn't even have to go to court to begin with is the real tragedy.

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Post by [deleted] »

walls wrote: post #251
thesagan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

You can't have a mature dialog with people who don't believe facts.

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Re: Gov Parson pushes to prosecute reporter who found security flaw in state site

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Post by [deleted] »

walls wrote: post #251
thesagan wrote: post #228

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This divisive rhetoric is what got us here in the first place; a breakdown in civil communication. The blue team mimics the red team in this respect. I wish we could have a more mature dialogue but I wonder if we're past that. Violent communication is normalizing.

You can't have a mature dialog with people who don't believe facts.

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Post by fallingknife »

hardwaregeek wrote: post #179
anovikov wrote: post #62

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I consider myself a liberal, and i agree with the point that college is net detrimental to society. It makes people waste their best years, teaches them mainly, useless stuff, barely breaks even in terms of lifetime earnings, and makes people bitter because they feel they are not valued by society the way they believe they should. This world needs a lot more new plumbers than new liberal arts majors. It is the societ…

We'd need to significantly improve high schools before considering eliminating college. Let's face it. We can't expect American high schools to teach students anything about the world. We've had schools try to spin the slave trade as sending "workers" to the New World. We've had attempts to show "both sides" of the Holocaust. And yes, college isn't perfect at teaching liberal arts, but it's better than not learning a…

> spin the slave trade as sending "workers" to the New World

That's not spin. That's exactly what the slave trade was.

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Post by diag »

spaetzleesser wrote: post #104
cde-v wrote: post #63

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You're just a lab rat if you take the vaccine before it has had 209,348 years of trials.

People here aren’t good at detecting sarcasm.

It's hard to see sarcasm when people also genuinely hold the belief.
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