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Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by monkmartinez »

jjcon wrote: post #284
camillomiller wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to consider the larger target group of professionals. It's really GPU capabilities that blow everything away. If you don't plan to use your MacBook Pro for video/photo editing or 3D modeling, then a M1 Pro with the same 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine has all you need and costs less. Unless I'm missing something I don't think there much added benefit from the added GPU cores in your scenario, unless yo…

> GPU capabilities that blow everything away Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing

Yes, Nvidia GPU's are a major reason I switched to PC about 3 years ago. That and I can upgrade RAM and SSD's myself on desktops and laptops. The power from professional apps like Solidworks, Agisoft metashape, and some Adobe products with a Nvidia card and drivers is like night and day with a Mac at the time I switched.

Does Apple have any ISV certified offerings? I can't find one. I suspect Apple will never win the Engineering crowd with the M1 switch... so many variable go into these systems builds and Apple just doesn't have that business model.

Even with these crazy M1's, I still have doubts about Apple winning the Movie/Creative market. LED walls, Unreal Engine, Unity are being used for SOOOO much more than just games now. The hegemony of US centric content creation is also dwindling... budget rigs are a heck of lot easier to source and pay for than M1's in most parts of the world.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by M4R5H4LL »

YetAnotherNick wrote: post #151
tambourine_man wrote: post #22

Site is under heavy load: 1783 Single-Core Score 12693 Multi-Core Score

For comparison, M1 results: 1705 Single core, 7382 multi core

For comparison, Mac Pro (Late 2019) 16-core: 1104 Single-Core Score, 15078 Multi-Core Score

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by amelius »

shados wrote: post #255
throwaway894345 wrote: post #234

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That's Docker for Mac versus native Docker. Docker only runs on Linux, so Docker for Mac spins up a linux VM to run your containers. When you mount your Ruby or Python projects into your containers, Docker for Mac marshals tons of filesystem events over the host/guest boundary which absolutely devastates your CPU. Docker for Mac is really just bad for your use case. No idea what's going on with the thumb drive, bluet…

> Beyond that, it's a little silly to compare a desktop (presumably many times larger, ~500+W power supply, cooling system, etc) with a Mac mini (tiny, laptop chip, no fans, etc). You're totally right, but I see a lot of folks around me making absolutely bonker claims on these M1 devices. If I believed everything I'm told, I'd be expecting them to run complex After Effect rendering at 10000 frames per second.

> You're totally right, but I see a lot of folks around me making absolutely bonker claims on these M1 devices.

Fake news happens on HN too. Apparently. Sadly.

Hopefully it's mostly limited to discussions about Apple.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by merrvk »

blakesterz wrote: post #100

I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

Put the same thing in a fanless laptop, that seems to last forever on a charge, then you’ll understand

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by ry4nolson »

EugeneOZ wrote: post #206
EugeneOZ wrote: post #199

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I’m comparing Windows PC (i7-6700k, nvme) with MBA m1 and MBA is noticeable faster in just everything. Compilation time of JS and Java code is literally 2 times faster on MBA M1 than on desktop i7 CPU.

for those who downvote the facts they don't want to know about: https://twitter.com/eugeniyoz/status/1407518570888810497?s=2...

nobody is arguing with your facts, just that your comparison is apples and oranges since the i7 6700k was released 5+ years ago.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by m15i »

cschmid wrote: post #306
m15i wrote: post #179

How will these chips do for training neural nets? The 64 GB RAM would be awesome for larger models, so I’m willing to sacrifice some training speed.

I know this doesn't answer your question, but can I just ask (out of curiosity) why you're training ML models on a laptop?

It’s all about the RAM. 64GB would allow input of larger image sizes and/or nets with more parameters. Right now, the consumer card with the most RAM is the rtx 3090 which is only 24GB, and in my opinion overpriced and inefficient in terms of wattage (~350W). Even the ~$6000 RTX A6000 cards are only 48GB.

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by ryanjodonnell »

spacedcowboy wrote: post #311
camillomiller wrote: post #272

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You need to consider the larger target group of professionals. It's really GPU capabilities that blow everything away. If you don't plan to use your MacBook Pro for video/photo editing or 3D modeling, then a M1 Pro with the same 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine has all you need and costs less. Unless I'm missing something I don't think there much added benefit from the added GPU cores in your scenario, unless yo…

I'm looking forward to playing BG3 on mine :)

Is it optimized for mac?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by xbar »

Closi wrote: post #308
yazaddaruvala wrote: post #275

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Its not clear to me that Apple will make a desktop-class processor. The unit economics likely don't make sense for them. All of Apple's innovation seems to be towards better and cheaper AR/VR hardware. Desktop-class processors would be a distraction for them. And with all of the top cloud players building custom silicon these days, there is little room for Apple to sell CPUs to the server market even if they were inc…

IMO it's obvious that there will need to be a desktop version - and all the rumours are pointing towards a Mac Pro release with silly specs - i.e. an SOC with something like 40/64+ cores. Why would Apple want to give up their portion of the high-power desktop market to Windows? What's the alternative? That they release another Mac Pro with intel, despite their stated intention to move everything away from x86, or tha…

Quite right.

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Post by astlouis44 »

moron4hire wrote: post #231
throwawaywindev wrote: post #60

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I believe they compared it to a ~100W mobile RTX 3080, not a desktop one. And the mobile part can go up to ~160W on gaming laptops like Legion 7 that have better cooling than the MSI one they compared to. They have a huge advantage in performance/watt but not in raw performance. And I wonder how much of that advantage is architecture vs. manufacturing process node.

I am very confused by these claims on M1's GPU performance. I build a WebXR app at work that runs at 120hz on the Quest 2, 90hz on my Pixel 5, and 90hz on my Window 10 desktop with an RTX 2080 with the Samsung Odyssey+ and a 4K display at the same time. And these are just the native refresh rates, you can't run any faster with the way VR rendering is done in the browser. But on my M1 Mac Mini, I get 20hz on a single,…

What sort of WebXR app? Game or productivity app?

Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

blakesterz wrote: post #100

I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…

Meh. The M1 is a node ahead and memory is placed on package. I'm trying not to be dazzled by the tech when it comes at the price of freedom.
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