Compared to the late 2020 Macbook Air: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/compare/10508178?baseli...
This confirms that single-core performance is essentially the same as the basic M1.
Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score
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#302Earlier quoted context omitted.
You need to consider the larger target group of professionals. It's really GPU capabilities that blow everything away. If you don't plan to use your MacBook Pro for video/photo editing or 3D modeling, then a M1 Pro with the same 10-core CPU and 16-core Neural Engine has all you need and costs less. Unless I'm missing something I don't think there much added benefit from the added GPU cores in your scenario, unless yo…
> GPU capabilities that blow everything away Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing
> Compared to previous macs and igpus - an nvidia gpu will still run circles arounnd this thing
True, but the point here is that M1 is able to achieve outstanding performance per watt numbers compared to Nvidia or Intel.
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#303Where is the graphics test? The M1 Max versus an NVIDIA 3080 or similar?
I'm waiting to be corrected by someone who knows GPU architecture better than me but as far as I can tell the synthetic benchmarks can trade blows with a 3070 or 80 (mobile), but the actual gaming performance isn't going to be as rosy. Also recall that very few games needing that performance actually work on MacOS
It's really hard to compare Apple and Nvidia, but a bit easier to compare Apple to AMD. My best guess is performance will be similar to a 6700xt. Of course, none of this really matters for gaming if studios don't support the Mac.
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#304I just can't figure out what I'm missing on the "M1 is so fast" side of things. For years I worked* on an Ubuntu desktop machine I built myself. Early this year I switched to a brand new M1 mini and this this is slower and less reliable than the thing I built myself that runs Ubuntu. My Ubuntu machine had a few little issues every no and then. My Mini has weird bugs all the time. e.g. Green Screen Crashes when I have…
Seems like your computer may have issues, you shouldn't be crashing from USB devices. Sounds like you should go get it checked out tbh.
Well could just be a software issue, for example if you installed the wrong CH430x driver to run your faux arduino clones (that didnt pay debt to ftdi) you might run into this issue.
Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score
#305Is geekbench seen as a valid score? It seems that on the pc hardware sites and youtube channels I frequent that they don't seem to mention it. The only time I seem to see it is for mac stuff.
It is one of the few cross-platform benchmarks that can be run on both PCs and Macs, as well as iOS, Android, and Linux.
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#306How will these chips do for training neural nets? The 64 GB RAM would be awesome for larger models, so I’m willing to sacrifice some training speed.
I know this doesn't answer your question, but can I just ask (out of curiosity) why you're training ML models on a laptop?
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#308Earlier quoted context omitted.
Then perhaps you may want to wait for Apple to release a desktop-class processor to make the comparison, perhaps early next year?
Its not clear to me that Apple will make a desktop-class processor. The unit economics likely don't make sense for them. All of Apple's innovation seems to be towards better and cheaper AR/VR hardware. Desktop-class processors would be a distraction for them. And with all of the top cloud players building custom silicon these days, there is little room for Apple to sell CPUs to the server market even if they were inc…
IMO it's obvious that there will need to be a desktop version - and all the rumours are pointing towards a Mac Pro release with silly specs - i.e. an SOC with something like 40/64+ cores. Why would Apple want to give up their portion of the high-power desktop market to Windows?
What's the alternative? That they release another Mac Pro with intel, despite their stated intention to move everything away from x86, or that they release a Mac Pro with just a laptop chip inside?
Let's remember that Apple has an annual R&D budget of c$20 billion, so it won't be totally shocking if they diverted a small fraction of that to build out a desktop processor.
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#309Top intel mobile processor appears to be https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/10431820 M1 Max gives 9% boost for single-core and 34% for multicore, with similar or larger (?) TDP -- Intel is 35-45 W, M1 Max is 60W but I assume some of it (a lot?) goes to GPU. Impressive, but probably wouldn't be called revolution if came from Intel.
M1 only uses around 15-18w with all 8 cores active according to Anandtech's review (with E-cores using 1/10 the power, that's equivalent to just a little less than 4.5 big cores. I'd guess 30w for all cores would be the upper-end power limit for the cores.
Intel's "TDP" is a suggestion rather than reality. Their chips often hit 60-80 watts of peak power before hitting thermals and being forced to dial back.
Re: Apple M1 Max Geekbench Score
#310Pretty impressive, all things considered. Looks like it's roughly on par with an AMD 5800X, which is a Desktop CPU with 8C/16T and a 105W TDP.
5800x seems 20% faster for single core: https://browser.geekbench.com/v5/cpu/5874365 so def not on part.
This is the official score: https://browser.geekbench.com/processors/amd-ryzen-7-5800x