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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Can someone fill me in?

Hostility towards users asking questions as seen in the tabstrip API bug. (A really simple thing that I fix on a weekly basis in 4 minutes every time I restart Firefox but somehow next to impossible for Mozilla. Although I should admit they are making it harder and harder for me as well.) Pushing Pocket (which is nice and could have become a nice source of income from users like me who wants to support the browser) i…

> Milking the browser...to fund its "mission", then laying off browser engineers and the Rust team to save money...Misleading people to think they suppprt [sic] Firefox when they donate to the foundation, then sending nothing to the browser and burning it all on "its mission"

This is where they lost me as a donor. Mozilla can't go a month without launching a new idiot project.

Do we know what fraction of their revenue gets spent on Firefox and Rust versus everything else?

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Are you looking for the article on scienceblog or here on HN? Those are the first two results I get from Google when using the quoted string.

Google, when used with double quotes and exact title, finds aggregator sites, but I was simulating looking for the original: https://joshmitteldorf.scienceblog.com/2020/07/08/politics-i... Here is one more, search: Ten Elements of the False COVID Narrative Google: nowhere Brave: first result And it's not like Google just didn't index the site, it works for topics that are "less controversial", search: Universal Clock…

None of your examples do what you say for me. I see everything on Google including your comments here.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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on the contrary. for what it's worth, I think google search is finally open to disruption. the tech required to compete with them is finally commoditized enough that it's financially doable, plus, and most importantly, they've screwed up their search results so much now that google search is just not that good anymore. I also think that they're "too" clever with their search to their detriment. We tend to think in te…

Exactly. If I search for "red car" with quotes, I don't get why I get results about purple wagons. It's like going to a pub and ordering a steak and getting a burger instead. No, I don't want your damn burger, I am not going to pay for it, I'm just going to try another pub. But wait, there's no pub that delivers what you've actually ordered.

Another hypothetical example that obviously doesn't give you purple wagons anywhere. Why not use a real example? Should be really easy if this is such a widespread problem.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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In the real world, Firefox is already dead and the only real competing browser engine is Webkit/Safari. Firefox's market share is 3.6% and on mobile only 0.5%. On many websites, mobile traffic is now at about 70%. Firefox doesn't even show up in dashboards, and is smaller than various Chromium clones and/or regional browsers.

We've been here before (hell, 3% looked massive back then, and in a much smaller market). Marketshare is not an issue, the relationship with the community is. A strong community, united around a core of values and secure that the product is built with these values at heart, will evangelize such product out of a niche. Unfortunately, the current Mozilla leadership doesn't seem to understand that significant chunks of…

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I use Neeva.com and I think one of their features resembles this idea. It is a paid for search engine though.

I think neeva is interesting. Once payment and a login is required it changes the incentives and opens up new feature possibilities. One cool feature is linking your private cloud document storage making search very personal. It remains to be seen if they can get enough people to pay in order to keep going though.

If they can search your private docs, they can see your private docs.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I just found a timely example of one of these sites that republish GitHub issues as their own content. Trying to understand a fairly specific Tensorflow error. Pasted an exact phrase query and the top result is gitmemory dot com. The content is horribly formatted, obviously just a low-effort scrape job. The author is attributed, but the link links to another page on this site that even says it just pull the data stra…

Yes, I hate it when I get results for that site. It also squeezes out the original github.com URL for that content from the search results, as you said, so I can't even solve it by writing an extension to hide it from search results. Luckily the original URL is easy to recover from its URL ( https://github.com/tensorflow/tensorflow/issues/26922 in your case), so I just copy the URL from the search result and fix it u…

It's a little weird to blame a third party for Google's ranking choices.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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How would such "pressure" look in practice? Seems to me that every industry on the planet is at Google's mercy, not the other way round.

How many google ads are on github or stack overflow compared to the other pages you find? They know exactly what every little change to the algorithm does to their bottom line.

Search doesn't have to concern itself with AdSense ads, search ads still make up something like %85 of Alphabet's total revenue
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