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Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Unfortunately can't use it: I'm on my private VPN almost all the time (need it for work). VPN is hosted as OpenVPN service on German Digital Ocean server to have static public IP. The VPN is mine only (sure IP is not), I'm the only person who uses it. Brave Search shows error on accessing: https://ibb.co/72L3mc5 . Other search engines open without problems. Turning off VPN helps, but I don't really understand why my…

That error looks really generic. It's actively trying to tell humans how to workaround the block, but seemingly without any contextual awareness. It's almost like it's from a "block automated traffic as a service" service. Now I'm curious if there any clues about the provider in the the HTML/CSS/JS of the block page.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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You know what, I welcome a new search provider, even if it's by a cryptocurrency company. I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo.

What I don't see is where Brave gets its image search results from. After Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man", which as far as I know they've never actually apologised for, just explained it as "a filter with more impact than expected" or some BS like that, I found out that most "competing" search engines bought all of their image search from Microsoft, leading to the same kind of censorship on platforms such as duckduckgo.

Brave says it's using "third parties" to generate the results but I can't easily see which third party that would be. If they are using Bing like all the others, I wouldn't trust their image search engine in the slightest.

Personally, I'll just assume they are for now, because they don't seem to clarify this further anywhere else.

From what I can tell, there are four image/video search providers in the world: Google, Bing, Yandex and Baidu. The rest all seem to license their results from one of the big four, mostly from Bing. When I need to pick from those four, I'll stick with Google; their censorship is relatively mild. I was hoping Brave Search would prove to be an alternative in this area, but that doesn't seem to be the case.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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I'm actually tempted to start using Brave. I'm still holding out with Firefox despite Mozilla trying very hard to get rid of us (to the point where the thought has struck me more than once if the current CEO of Mozilla is in the pocket of Google). If at some point the last competing mainstream browser engine is gone I'll probably go for Brave and I might start testing it this week.

What Mozilla is doing now with Firefox should be taught in business schools as an example how to destroy a brand.

Can someone fill me in?

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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This reminds me to uninstall brave. Rebranded chromium with crypto shilling and now "premium search"? They didn't even test DNS with their tor feature, causing identity leaks. Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled and include the codecs and DRM libs? Woolyss builds do all that, but there's no fancy single download installer+auto updater. We need just "chromium".

> Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled You mean like this? https://github.com/Eloston/ungoogled-chromium

That's my choice for when I need a Chrome based browser and I recommend it. No bullshit, just Chrome.

There's automatic updates if you install it via homebrew/winget/[packagemanager of choice].

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It seems normal to me that they only want access from residential IP blocks.

Ok, but others are not restricting such behavior, so this one is a restriction for me. They can decide whether traffic is an organic search at least checking if I rush their page with the rate of 100 requests per second or smth similar. For me this is a downside that I'm restricted in usage of "public" resource.

Google answers with a captcha occasionally, the 'suspiscious traffic from your network' one

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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You know what, I welcome a new search provider, even if it's by a cryptocurrency company. I'd rather see Qwant succeed, but their search is having trouble competing with even duckduckgo. What I don't see is where Brave gets its image search results from. After Microsoft blatantly started serving the CCP by blocking queries for "tank man", which as far as I know they've never actually apologised for, just explained it…

I thought Yandex also used Bing for image search?

Ya when I do image search in Yandex at the bottom it says Search: Bing Google

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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This reminds me to uninstall brave. Rebranded chromium with crypto shilling and now "premium search"? They didn't even test DNS with their tor feature, causing identity leaks. Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled and include the codecs and DRM libs? Woolyss builds do all that, but there's no fancy single download installer+auto updater. We need just "chromium".

May be tone down your paranoia bit, once I disabled brave rewards, which was offered as a part of installation without any dark pattern I never saw any shilling. Also what’s wrong with premium search? You expect free things which cost a lot of money, but you must not see Ads? And Tor themselves wouldn’t recommend any other browser. Tor feature in brave doesn’t seem to be intended for super serious, but a safer VPN li…

Problem is that "free" is our only option. I would love to pay for search engine that has more configuration options and no ads, I would love to pay for a modern browser (engine) without any tracking and no ads. Reality is that I cannot do that.
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