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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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skinkestek wrote: post #85
sverhagen wrote: post #47

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder maybe every other day if I could delist W3Schools, by maybe always adding a negating query aspect to the URL. But this all doesn't seem easily supported, when I looked at it. Yep, hating on W3Schools with a passion. Younger self shot himself too often in foot with W3Schools.

Warning: unusual opinions sliding into a full fledged rant. I know it is cool to hate w3schools and I don't use it personally, but seriously, can we get over ourselves here? The reason why w3schools rank highly and have done for years is because for a large segment of users it works. And as someone else has pointed out the official documentation is often atrocious: both Python and Java online docs are close to worthl…

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by DeathArrow »

mrtksn wrote: post #64
DeathArrow wrote: post #38

Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.

Every NLP AI is like that, it’s like trying to make a mentally challenged person do something for you and you have to correct them for something extremely simple and it is frustrating. Yes, Google, I did not type North Korea DHL by accident. I really mean the odd one because I’m curious if they have DHL but I really don’t feel like explaining it to you. Could you please simply don’t assume stuff by default? I appreci…

Are they using AI for search? That would be a recipe for getting relevant search results only sometimes since AI is based on statistic models.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by gremIin »

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #46
moralestapia wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good job! $0.01 has been credited to your Google account. On a more serious tone, the quality of Google search results is continuously degrading.

Sometimes I wonder if it’s just me being worse at using keywords to search for what I need but I’ve noticed that it’s so much harder to find things that are actually helpful via google on stackoverflow etc. Most annoying thing is when I restrict keywords and they still show up on the search results. Now when I can’t find something on Google, instead of refining keywords, I give DDG or Bing a go first (both not always…

It's not you. Google nerfed search a few years ago. I noticed exactly what you noticed around 2016 or so.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by gremIin »

DeathArrow wrote: post #92
mrtksn wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Every NLP AI is like that, it’s like trying to make a mentally challenged person do something for you and you have to correct them for something extremely simple and it is frustrating. Yes, Google, I did not type North Korea DHL by accident. I really mean the odd one because I’m curious if they have DHL but I really don’t feel like explaining it to you. Could you please simply don’t assume stuff by default? I appreci…

Are they using AI for search? That would be a recipe for getting relevant search results only sometimes since AI is based on statistic models.

They're using AI for everything now.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by dx034 »

hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #43
thestepafter wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am surprised by this as well since Google is able to identify the origin of content (eg. Stackoverflow) and penalize sites for duplicating that content (or so they say). In my opinion it wouldn’t be difficult to identify the domains duplicating the content and penalize heavily. But, those sites are most likely displaying Google Ads so…

I just wish I could configure google to not show certain domains such as W3schools without adding a complex search query or installing plugins

To be fair, w3schools and the like don't just copy content. They provide different information and, most importantly, present it differently from official docs. And for many, their way of presenting information may work better.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by BarryMilo »

tommica wrote: post #87
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

This is where ad-based businesses show their ugly side: The more control you have over what you see, the fewer ways they have to slip you inconspicuous ads.

This is why all content feeds like Facebook and Twitter get vaguer as time goes by, and it's why Google will never give up control over results unless it legally has to.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by ApolIllo »

mrtksn wrote: post #64
DeathArrow wrote: post #38

Google used to be good at one point in time. Now its search results aren't very relevant, it returns what it thinks it should interest you, not what you've actually searched for. It doesn't matter if you do a verbatim search, it will still try to be smart and use alternative terms.

Every NLP AI is like that, it’s like trying to make a mentally challenged person do something for you and you have to correct them for something extremely simple and it is frustrating. Yes, Google, I did not type North Korea DHL by accident. I really mean the odd one because I’m curious if they have DHL but I really don’t feel like explaining it to you. Could you please simply don’t assume stuff by default? I appreci…

So what did you find out? Does DHL deliver to DPRK?

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by captn3m0 »

tommica wrote: post #87
eloisius wrote: post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

I remember reading in HN an idea about allowing people to customize the weights used to filter search results - a search engine that provided that, where I could use some curated configuration file. Maybe I could have profiles like "cooking", "programming", "news" and help the search engine even better to understand my intent. Or just have the "don't show results from this site again" button from youtube taken into g…

https://felvin.com/ is trying to build "Search profiles", but it's still quite early.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Post by dx034 »

moralestapia wrote: post #32
charcircuit wrote: post #28

It doesn't seem as good. My first search: what's the latest minecraft version Brave: 1.14.4 Google: 1.17 Brave gives me the wrong answer that is outdated by like 2 years. Second search: 白の意味 Brave: On Japan location 6 garbage search results + irrelevant wikipedia page. On United states 3 garbage search results before a relevant result. The first result is literally a private YouTube video. Seriously? Google: Has a sn…

Good job! $0.01 has been credited to your Google account. On a more serious tone, the quality of Google search results is continuously degrading.

Maybe on an absolute basis, but on a relative basis I still find Google results (esp for localized results) far above any other search engine. And that gap hasn't narrowed at all since I first started using DDG several years back.
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