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Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

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Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#21

This reminds me to uninstall brave. Rebranded chromium with crypto shilling and now "premium search"? They didn't even test DNS with their tor feature, causing identity leaks. Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled and include the codecs and DRM libs? Woolyss builds do all that, but there's no fancy single download installer+auto updater. We need just "chromium".

brave shilling is concerningly effective

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#23

This reminds me to uninstall brave. Rebranded chromium with crypto shilling and now "premium search"? They didn't even test DNS with their tor feature, causing identity leaks. Can we not just have the chromium builds degoogled and include the codecs and DRM libs? Woolyss builds do all that, but there's no fancy single download installer+auto updater. We need just "chromium".

May be tone down your paranoia bit, once I disabled brave rewards, which was offered as a part of installation without any dark pattern I never saw any shilling. Also what’s wrong with premium search? You expect free things which cost a lot of money, but you must not see Ads? And Tor themselves wouldn’t recommend any other browser. Tor feature in brave doesn’t seem to be intended for super serious, but a safer VPN like alternative instead of say Express or Nord. Even that is optional. You are never forced to use any of these features. I don’t understand the sentiment of everything must be free and open source, when your daily life is not. At least on Yc backed HN, I wish I see people supporting alternate business models. If it works for them good, else market speaks.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#25
post #9

Great! I've recently mentioned that Brave Search is the only alternative search I've stuck to since day 1. Works much better for me than DDG or any other search has ever did. Not perfect, rarely returns DE results instead of English, but from my point of view they're doing something good and I'm sold. But please, give me a way to pay for it. I don't want to be the product, one day.

> But please, give me a way to pay for it. I don't want to be the product, one day. From what I understand, this is already planned. > Brave Search is currently not displaying ads, but the free version of Brave Search will soon be ad-supported. Brave Search will also offer an ad-free Premium version in the near future.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#26

This seems more like trying to capture money. If this was about privacy, they could have just gone with duckduckgo.

Have you spent much time with Brave Search? I use Firefox and currently have DDD as the default search on my laptop, but I often use the !g operator since the DDD results are routinely not as good as Google. I’ve had a significantly better experience with Brave Search, though. I’ll probably switch my default soon, once I learn the operators that Brave supports.

The bang operators for ddg justify it as my default even knowing that it isn’t very good for some queries. The habit of being able to reroute a search to the engine that will handle it most appropriately is a killer feature. Only drawback is that the redirect can take an extra few seconds sometimes.

It’s hard to imagine replacing it. If Brave search becomes excellent then I can just use the bang for it.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#27
post #7

I’ve been using Brave search for several months now. I switched the day that it was announced. The quality is fairly good, but I’m having troubling telling whether it’s just my own halo effect or if the initial quality that experienced has started to slip a little as it indexes more widely or something. At first I was impressed with how little spam ended up in top results, but lately exact queries for Python function…

Well, I'd bet a big factor is that these spammy sites probably spend a lot of time on SEO - illuminating StackOverflow answers and official documentation don't.

I guess I’m surprised that it’s not possible to quickly deindex these spam farms and render their SEO spend a waste. Especially Google, I’m surprised they can’t detect and ban SEO rings more effectively.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#28
It doesn't seem as good. My first search: what's the latest minecraft version

Brave: 1.14.4

Google: 1.17

Brave gives me the wrong answer that is outdated by like 2 years.

Second search: 白の意味

Brave: On Japan location 6 garbage search results + irrelevant wikipedia page. On United states 3 garbage search results before a relevant result. The first result is literally a private YouTube video. Seriously?

Google: Has a snippet about the meaning of white and the first result is a dictionary entry.

The indexing for Google seems to be equally as private, so brave search just seems like a downgrade.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well, I'd bet a big factor is that these spammy sites probably spend a lot of time on SEO - illuminating StackOverflow answers and official documentation don't.

I guess I’m surprised that it’s not possible to quickly deindex these spam farms and render their SEO spend a waste. Especially Google, I’m surprised they can’t detect and ban SEO rings more effectively.

The SEO places aren't dumb, they do their best to mimic legit content.

Re: Brave Search replaces Google as default search engine in the Brave browser

#30
I use DDG on desktop but on mobile they are unusable. Their app displays three ads out of 4 results in a page. A simple typo gives me completely different results.

I will continue to hope there is some kind of subscription to Google search without tracking and all.

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