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Re: Android 12

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Screens keep getting bigger, while tweets stay the same size. You need something to pad the rest of the space.

How about more tweets? The information density on modern everything is utter garbage.

I doubt anyone here wants more tweets. I personally wish the twitter UI would just be entirely whitespace (or a fine chirping blue if they're feeling adventerous) for their audience to sit and enjoy; I can genuinely find no drawbacks to such a UI rework.

Re: Android 12

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Well yeah... because you have to wait until 2020 to get widgets on your home screen. :)

Sure, but I don't want them and that's on the (lengthening every year) list of stuff I wish Apple'd take out, to simplify the UI. Peaked in iOS 6, IMO, been a rollercoaster that's never again reached the height of that first hill ever since.

Really? I've found Apple's slow and steady approach to additions in the iOS UI to be more pleasant than not. I will admit I've only been using iPhones since iOS 10 but have mostly only noticed improvements since then (e.g. the new control panel, amazing animations, app library).

Widgets, as well, have been a deal breaker for me, what makes you dislike them?

The only real problem I have with iOS as a whole right now is how buried some actions can be, especially in apps like Safari and Music, some things which should be a press away can take 3-4 taps to complete, which while not really annoying does make me feel like a grandpa just tapping away at his phone to share an image or add a song to my queue.

Re: Android 12

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oh yeah we all look back super fondly on the dozens and dozens of nested lists that somehow was considered passable as a user interface. I'm no fan of the current whitespace-heavy UI paradigm, but to say BlackBerry did it better is definitely not matching my own memories of my BlackBerry devices at all.

It is the design paradigm of Blackberry is what we prefers because it shows information of what we want and need without any fuss. The modern design paradigm is so backward and marketing-oriented, filled with ads and paddings the way bean counters have in mind. The 90s/00s era have a good design in mind that are human-oriented and natural to use. Now, everything felt off and harder to memorize those extra steps. My B…

I agree with the sentiment about UI designs today, and I think that those horrible lists of the BlackBerry were just as bad, for the very same reasons.

some of those list items took some action immediately, some opened further lists, and there was no differentiation visually, for example. some may call that "tool-like", but I call it "lacking important contextual information", and it's just as bad as other UIs which lack important cues.

> modern smartphone tries their best to be hostile toward their users no matter what

they definitely do not try to be hostile. I sense an attitude on this site lately which is probably best summed up as "everything new is stupid" and that is just as misguided as believing that modern smartphones are intentionally hostile.

MAYBE they're unintentionally hostile. Maybe, but I doubt it. Smartphones are imperfect, yes, and dark patterns DO exist, yes, and I can't recall ever seeing anything hostile in Android or iOS or iPadOS, ever. organized poorly? sure. oversimplified? yep! hostile? never.

Re: Android 12

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Anyone else just stopped keeping track of what version of Android their phone is on? I used to know this stuff, but these days couldn't care less.

I've been using Android since Éclair (2.1) and Ice Cream Sandwich (4.0) was the last version I was excited about. It's kind of like Word and Excel that were "finished" with v6.0 and v5.0 respectively.

Re: Android 12

#95
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Still no full system backup like iOS

Sad to hear it's still a problem. I had Android for a while, but device upgrades instead of being exciting, were a thing I most dreaded.

Upgrading Android phones, even with their supposedly new migration assistant via cables, still kept losing most of my apps' device-local data and settings, as if Google didn't care about anything that isn't on their servers.

Re: Android 12

#96
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As someone who used 132x65 pagers back then, my Blackberry RIM 850 can display more information in the screen than my Samsung Note 8. I loathe this "maximum white space!!" UIs as well. My boss prefers the grandparent-mode UIs whereas I prefer compact with every space is being used as possible. I like to have high-density texts like the old day of Reddit to minimum screen-scrolling.

Oh man, blackberry's where such perfect communication devices, fast writing no additional bs...i miss that time, it was the perfect mix of smart and dump phone...and nothing more was/is needed.

See: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28517447

"Ask HN: Do you still miss your RIM BlackBerry?"

Re: Android 12

#97
post #92

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Sure, but I don't want them and that's on the (lengthening every year) list of stuff I wish Apple'd take out, to simplify the UI. Peaked in iOS 6, IMO, been a rollercoaster that's never again reached the height of that first hill ever since.

Really? I've found Apple's slow and steady approach to additions in the iOS UI to be more pleasant than not. I will admit I've only been using iPhones since iOS 10 but have mostly only noticed improvements since then (e.g. the new control panel, amazing animations, app library). Widgets, as well, have been a deal breaker for me, what makes you dislike them? The only real problem I have with iOS as a whole right now i…

I like iOS devices as a slab of glass & metal that becomes various tools (apps). Since there's nothing else that operates that way, the more it becomes like a general-purpose OS, the farther we get from having anything available that behaves that way.

The shock of the move from 6 to 7 was pretty large. 6: "slide to unlock" slider that looked like a physical slider-latch, like one you might slide to unlock a container, and was so obvious in what it did, that it hardly even needed text to be usable by anyone. 7: "swipe to unlock" in thin text on... the background? So what do I swipe? Oh, the screen itself, which is a completely different metaphor for interaction, and entirely unintuitive to people who don't think like that. That kind of thing, repeated across the entire UI.

Most of the multitasking stuff they've added, are just weird modes I accidentally put myself in then have to spend time figuring out how to get out of them. I'm sure they're pure rage-inducing hell for most people, who are even worse at tech than I am.

I think the loss of the home button, one of the most brilliant UI elements of all time, is a big loss for intuitiveness/usability for people who aren't immersed in very digital-native metaphors. It was such a great safety net for people. "Oh shit, what's this?! HOME BUTTON! Ah, now I'm in familiar territory". Swiping the screen up from the bottom is not a complete replacement for that.

Overall it's just far less relaxing and straightforward than it used to be. Used to feel like some kind of hyper-advanced "slow tech" sort of thing. Now it's a lot closer to just being another computer OS. I wouldn't care, except there's no alternative that provides the old thing that I liked better.

Re: Android 12

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As someone who used 132x65 pagers back then, my Blackberry RIM 850 can display more information in the screen than my Samsung Note 8. I loathe this "maximum white space!!" UIs as well. My boss prefers the grandparent-mode UIs whereas I prefer compact with every space is being used as possible. I like to have high-density texts like the old day of Reddit to minimum screen-scrolling.

Oh man, blackberry's where such perfect communication devices, fast writing no additional bs...i miss that time, it was the perfect mix of smart and dump phone...and nothing more was/is needed.

Except for the web

But otherwise I do agree it was a fantastic phone for easy communication. Although it was far too easy to txt and drive

Re: Android 12

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For real. For me smartphones are just good enough. They all take nice pictures, they're all fast enough, they all have a nice screen, nice touch controls and nice UI. It just doesn't matter as much anymore. The only thing on here that made me go "oh cool" is the extra dim mode, my 4a really likes scorching my retinas at night.

I am almost with you, but there are some things I appreciate: a. A better quality of pictures even in less-than-perfectly lit scenes. This matters indoors or in the gloomier months of the year. b. As you mentioned, an extra dim, or on the other hand extra bright, mode of the screen. Trying to orient yourself in blazing midday sun is a horror with some screens. c. Fast charging is something I thoroughly enjoy.

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Re: Android 12

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Last time I used android it was version 4.1 boasting how it improved responsiveness of the system. Here we are with Android 12 still trying to improve responsiveness and smoothness of the system...

Open developer settings and change the three "animation scale" settings to 0.5x. Modern phones rarely have responsiveness issues outside gratuitous animations.
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