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Re: Android 12

#71

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In fairness it is getting (very slightly) better. A few years ago the phone co's would sell a phone today to your parents that was already 1-2 version behind especially if the phone was released a year or so ago. And then NEVER update it over 3 years outside of (maybe) some security updates. For some reason, a month after iOS is released, phones from Apple, including older phones still being sold, are either sold upd…

Google themselves abandon their phones after only a couple of years. It’s awful for the environment, users, and app developers. Meanwhile my iPhone 8 got iOS 15 over 5 years after it launched.

And they are still updating older versions of iOS for some reason.

iOS 14.8 was 9/13/21 14.7 was 7/26/21

iOS 12.5 was 6/14/21

So that's 7+ years?

Re: Android 12

#72
post #20

Looks like grandparent mode is enabled by default with all the whitespace and even lower information density. What's the endgame? In 20 years only a single letter at a time on the screen? >Any information processed in Private Compute Core requires explicit user action before it can be shared with Google (...) If they know everything about the data going in and coming out it's still useless. Also what important APIs d…

Well at first IT people complained because boomers wouldn't learn how to use computers. Now they (sorta)did and they want one letter per screen. Since they still control the majority of the market share that is what we will get by default.

Its really the getting old denial mode. All of those people need reading glasses not huge font. Seriously the in house attorney where i worked(like 70yo) had his phone font set so large it was like 2-3 words per screen on email and text.

Re: Android 12

#73
post #2

did they stop giving these cutesy dessert-related nicknames for some reason?

> Going with a new naming scheme for the 10th version of Android makes a bit of sense; it’s a landmark release. Still, given how difficult it is to put a common dessert to the letter Q, I noted to Google’s Sameer Samat, VP of product management for Android, that it was awfully convenient that Google picked this release to switch up the naming scheme. “We’re going to deal with that skepticism,” he says. Google’s actua…

Weird, I remember tourists from seemingly all over the world loving the different Android statues in front on the Android building on Google campus.

Re: Android 12

#75

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Having been a developer for both platforms, Apple events/announcements are exciting for people working on iOS apps, while Google events are kinda just depressing. "Oh, yeah, that's cool I guess. Be fun to get to use it in five more years when enough people have this, or a newer, version, for it to matter."

Well yeah... because you have to wait until 2020 to get widgets on your home screen. :)

Sure, but I don't want them and that's on the (lengthening every year) list of stuff I wish Apple'd take out, to simplify the UI. Peaked in iOS 6, IMO, been a rollercoaster that's never again reached the height of that first hill ever since.

Re: Android 12

#78

"Private by design so you’re in control." Oh, come on.

Was that paragraph meant to be clickable or extendable?

Because I wanted to read what they meant by

"With new easy-to-use, powerful privacy features, you’ll have peace of mind"

but noscript blocked any link or something.

"If you see anything that you’re not comfortable with, you can manage permissions right from the dashboard."

I doubt I can remove all permissions from Google (?)

Re: Android 12

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Having been a developer for both platforms, Apple events/announcements are exciting for people working on iOS apps, while Google events are kinda just depressing. "Oh, yeah, that's cool I guess. Be fun to get to use it in five more years when enough people have this, or a newer, version, for it to matter."

In fairness it is getting (very slightly) better. A few years ago the phone co's would sell a phone today to your parents that was already 1-2 version behind especially if the phone was released a year or so ago. And then NEVER update it over 3 years outside of (maybe) some security updates. For some reason, a month after iOS is released, phones from Apple, including older phones still being sold, are either sold upd…

> For some reason, a month after iOS is released, phones from Apple, including older phones still being sold, are either sold updated or can be updated.

That reason should be pretty obvious. Apple has a massive profit margin on their phones, so they're economically able to do this.

The margins are super small with Android devices, so if any OEM tries to offer support they'll be quickly undercut by the competition

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