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Re: Apple October Event [video]

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Am I the only one bothered by the thickness? I mean, the new macs are going to be amazing machines but....it's just so un-Apple, you know? Still, gonna pick one up as soon as I can :)

I'm not bothered about it and if that's the space they need to put their tech into it, then this is it. Would be a shame if anyone would make something thinner on the cost of tech specs. Not that that ever happened...

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I'm going to miss it :( i know that's super unpopular and understand why people don't like it.

Same. I absolutely loved it for video and audio editing but I can understand why most people didn't like it. The new Intel commercials where they try to pass off a few laptops as Macbooks and then "surprise" the people when they're not Macs just reinforced for me how stupid a touchscreen on a laptop is.

Touchscreen is not that bad for laptops that can transform into a tablet, but that's a fairly different class of devices.

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I don't understand why you'd have an issue with it? The screen area cuts into the previous gen's bezel so, at worst, you'd just black out the top of the screen to have the exact same screen size as before and, at best, you can use the extra display for things like the menu bar. What's the issue?

If you don't "get it" just by looking at it, then good for you. There are no technical arguments to make me "unsee" it. It's ugly. It displeases my sense of aesthetics. It's the Hitler mustache of industrial design.

>It displeases my sense of aesthetics.

Or lack thereof.

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...and the dreaded notch is back. Time to wait again.

Curious as to why? You get more screen real estate with the notch and, at worst, you have the same display size as before? What's the issue?

Not only the notch is an absolute disaster, the thickness is at most; woeful.

The CPUs are outstanding, but that laptop itself is a monstrosity from the 2006 Macbook Pro days. Finally the price makes it even more disappointing for what is on offer.

Another missed opportunity.

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What's the other option? Under the screen has image quality issues. A thicker bezel means less screen space. Sticking up over the display is a worse compromise. Putting it on the bottom of the display really isn't ideal. For most people, the only thing it covers is the menu bar.

> Under the screen has image quality issues. I don't care. You need to process the hell out of a selfie image so you don't look like a goblin anyway. I'm sure the ML wizards at Apple can figure this out. > A thicker bezel means less screen space. The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. > Sticking up over the display is a worse compromise. Putting it on the bottom of the display really isn't ideal. I agree. > For most…

> No, I don't care about Face ID, especially in the era of COVID. A finger print reader on the side or on the back is superior.

Conveniently, these have a fingerprint reader still on the device.

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What's the other option? Under the screen has image quality issues. A thicker bezel means less screen space. Sticking up over the display is a worse compromise. Putting it on the bottom of the display really isn't ideal. For most people, the only thing it covers is the menu bar.

> Under the screen has image quality issues. I don't care. You need to process the hell out of a selfie image so you don't look like a goblin anyway. I'm sure the ML wizards at Apple can figure this out. > A thicker bezel means less screen space. The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. > Sticking up over the display is a worse compromise. Putting it on the bottom of the display really isn't ideal. I agree. > For most…

> The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts.

The notch is a tiny part of what remains of the previous bezel. That space isn't usable on an older M1 MBP, either.

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If you don't "get it" just by looking at it, then good for you. There are no technical arguments to make me "unsee" it. It's ugly. It displeases my sense of aesthetics. It's the Hitler mustache of industrial design.

>It displeases my sense of aesthetics. Or lack thereof.

No, you!

Seriously, look at the promo images that Apple created for this product:

https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/

The vast majority of these images hide the notch by not showing the menu bar at all, which is not how a Mac is generally used. The other images make it less noticable by putting it over a dark background. Does that convey confidence in the design, by the designers that were tasked to make it look good?

The best thing you can say is: It's not that noticeable under certain conditions.

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How is that a compromise? You either have a massive black bar at the top of the laptop, or a small notch that allows for more screen real estate.

I suspect this notch is going to be a problem for a significant number of full-screen applications that never assumed there would be something like that. Although that'd be probably mostly games, and I don't think notch is going to be a primary issue for those.

It was mentioned in the keynote that you can disable the entire top region of the screen that aligns with the notch. That makes this equivalent to any notchless laptop.

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> Under the screen has image quality issues. I don't care. You need to process the hell out of a selfie image so you don't look like a goblin anyway. I'm sure the ML wizards at Apple can figure this out. > A thicker bezel means less screen space. The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. > Sticking up over the display is a worse compromise. Putting it on the bottom of the display really isn't ideal. I agree. > For most…

> The notch is a huge bezel with cutouts. The notch is a tiny part of what remains of the previous bezel. That space isn't usable on an older M1 MBP, either.

It's not about usable space. It's about the look. A smaller bezel doesn't lead to a better appearance by itself, but even then I'm sure they could've made the bezel smaller either way. However, the notch isn't made to be of minimal size. It's intrusive. It's telling me: I'm here, deal with it.

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>It displeases my sense of aesthetics. Or lack thereof.

No, you! Seriously, look at the promo images that Apple created for this product: https://www.apple.com/macbook-pro-14-and-16/ The vast majority of these images hide the notch by not showing the menu bar at all, which is not how a Mac is generally used. The other images make it less noticable by putting it over a dark background. Does that convey confidence in the design, by the designers that were tasked to make it…

The notch reminds me of Macron: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DO0bQ83UMAAUabp.jpg:large

It’s not only a joke, it’s also that once you see it, you understand that the aesthetics of a notch aren’t based in sleek features, but in function-over-form.

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