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Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

Not completely. Most were dormant advertisements.

There is not a big tourist tax here; the biggest tax evasions for private people is probably on their income tax level, but that's not solved by this.

The direct issue it addresses is the take over of many tourists of certain neighborhoods meant for living.

The favorite hobby of habitants of Amsterdam is complaining about tourists.

The fight against Airbnb is a symbolic fight for the left winged parties in the city. Airbnb stands for big bad capitalistic wolf that makes the city unlivable for the normal people.

The issue this bigger fight addresses is that Amsterdam is slowly becoming unaffordable for normal people and especially families. Tourist rentals are partly to blame, but there are many more causes (low interest rate, rich parents, students, limited space and more)

So there are a bunch of restrictive legislations trying to deal with this, this is just one of them. Another one for instance is that since last year it's required to have a permit if you want to live in a house with more then 2 adults.

Already for years it was required to register every night you rented out your appartment. Airbnb however refused to open the books so there was no way to check it for the city. Probably this way Amsterdam can check every registered appartment that's publically listed without the help of Airbnb.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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I'd be surprised if a large % of those that no longer rent out on Airbnb can just leave their properties empty. I wonder whether those properties have shifted to other short-term rental platforms or whether they've gone back into long-term renting and what impact that the latter (would) have on the local rental market...

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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So how is there housing for people to rent? Does the government build and maintain all rental property?

No, there are private and council-owned landlords.

Can you explain more? That still sounds like you are able to "make money by buying a few flats and renting them out" but with extra steps.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, there are private and council-owned landlords.

Can you explain more? That still sounds like you are able to "make money by buying a few flats and renting them out" but with extra steps.

No, the landlords in these cases own the whole building, not just a few flats. If you own the whole building then you can of course rent out the flats in that building. But if you just own a couple of flats in the building, then you generally cannot easily rent them out.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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It may flow through the days of newspapers for apartment rentals. A person wanted to sublet, to rent, an ad in the paper was the way. And listings are ads, just with deferred payment (eg, once rented, then you kick a percent at the platform). Another "common person" thinks of it differently than we do, thing?

Don't overthink it. The article was probably translated from Dutch, or done by a Dutch person, and there isn't direct equivalent for "listings" in Dutch.

That's interesting. So how would a Dutch person describe Google search results listings with ads in between?

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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I don't especially mind tourists in moderate numbers - after all, from time to time, I play the tourist myself. However, I live and work in Cambridge, and if we were to put what you suggest into practice the city would become an absolutely intolerable place to be for everyone. AirBnb may or may not be a big problem here but, if it is, it's a subset of a bigger problem: buy to let. I'd like to see buy to let severely…

Buy to let has no effect on housing prices as long as rental yields are low. If the problem is tourism: ban tourists from the city. It doesn't make sense to ban short-term rentals but continue to build hotels and run advertising campaigns promoting tourism to Amsterdam

> It doesn't make sense to ban short-term rentals but continue to build hotels and run advertising campaigns promoting tourism to Amsterdam

Why doesn't it? Why should tourists get to say in the same type of places as locals, often at the expense of locals? To me, it makes perfect sense to ban short-term rentals but still let tourists stay in hotels and places meant for them, without taking up real estate that can be used for residences.

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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post #101
post #9

So essentially 80% were not properly registered and paying taxes? I’m not that surprised, once a good double-digit number are cheating, cheating becomes the only viable way to remain competitive.

Not completely. Most were dormant advertisements. There is not a big tourist tax here; the biggest tax evasions for private people is probably on their income tax level, but that's not solved by this. The direct issue it addresses is the take over of many tourists of certain neighborhoods meant for living. The favorite hobby of habitants of Amsterdam is complaining about tourists. The fight against Airbnb is a symbol…

> There is not a big tourist tax here

Seriously? Numbers I just googled show like 10-20 million tourists vs a metro population of 2.5 million and you guys have some of the highest taxes in the world? Why are you taxing yourself so much when you can tax the tourists because it is pretty much the opposite in most tourist places in the US?

Re: Airbnb removes 80% of advertisements in Amsterdam after registration obligation

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If you purchase a flat, it's under the implicit assumption that you or your family will be the only ones occupying it I also live in Sweden and that is a very Sweden specific assumption. Even just across the border in Norway that assumption doesn't hold. Sweden on the whole is very anti small private landlords and have lots of laws making it basically impossible to make money by buying a few flats and renting them ou…

So how is there housing for people to rent? Does the government build and maintain all rental property?

You’d usually rent from someone owning an entire building. Usually a company but sometimes an individual.
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