The issue is the poor taste in not defending those who are struggling to defend themselves. That shows lack of leadership and meaningless principles. Netflix employees rightly recognized that Sarandos’ statement had no real principles behind it, but was purely based on appeasing popular creators.
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#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
That is not what people are taking issue with. Regardless of where anyone stands on the issue, much of the special was about LGBT people, and the bit about his friend could hardly be construed as the most offensive part.
There’s thousands of skits about brown, black, white, asian, men, women and every other diversity box possible which everyone has loved laughing at for forever and continues to do so till this date. If one can’t stand jokes against their diversity box, then they aren’t seeking equality, they are seeking supremacy.
I know at least Indians LOVED Russell Peters in the 2000s precisely because he made such funny jokes about us that (this is what makes a lot of comedy great) were relatable. Most of us laughed along with everyone else.
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#93Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? They work at FAANG. Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly. I suspect people involved with work stoppages who aren't protected via a union are keenly aware of the possibility of being fired and have deemed it worth the risk. > This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wante…
> Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly. That's what makes it so good for both parties: Netflix would get rid of employees who are holding the company back, and the employees could easily find new places to work. Seems very mutually beneficial. > This is literally a text book example of the type of action organized labour takes when its mad about something. It's not, really. Strikes are usually abo…
I would argue this is about workers.
Rightly or wrongly, they seem to think netflix did something morally wrong (i haven't watched the show in question, so not making any judgements on validity). People who work for "bad" companies are often seen as "bad", so it does affect the employees.
More to the point, isn't the important bit that employees are angry and in agreement, not what they are angry about? It seems pretty dystopian to me to say only some grievences are legit.
Anyways, there's also other examples of historical strikes over moral issues. Googling found me https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Longshoremen%27s...
Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle
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> If you don't like the company's decisions, you should stop working for the company - easy enough. That's exactly the threat here, but with an opportunity for the company to alter its decision making if it wants the labor.
What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wanted to walk out of classes or miss exams but also wanted special treatment so they didn't fail the class. I've got no problem with not working at a place whose values you dont agree with, but I see this kind of action (and similar things at other te…
> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out?
As with the threat itself, probably nothing unless someone else said something about it that I felt called for a response.
Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle
#95Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? They work at FAANG. Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly. I suspect people involved with work stoppages who aren't protected via a union are keenly aware of the possibility of being fired and have deemed it worth the risk. > This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wante…
> They work at FAANG. Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly I think companies are acutely aware and growingly suspicious of employee activism. Would you want to hire an activist for your organization? It would be a red flag to me as the activist employees could second guess any decisions made at any level of the organization and work to organize to cause a disruption. It's just not an effective way…
you've got the importances inverted. letting companies do as they please is no way to run a society. people first, then companies. it's this sort of inversion that's gotten us into the mess of a society we're facing now.
Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle
#96"Cuties" was fine, but a stand-up skit is where they draw the line. Glad they have their priorities straightened out.
To be fair, cuties had a lot of controversy around it too. As with such matters, that's long forgotten in the world of twitter and people have moved on to the next thing. This too will pass.
That was mostly from the right though. Everyone knows they'll move on to the next thing quickly unlike slacktivists who will take on something and hold on to something until twitter stops giving them any feedback.
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No "walkouts" or resignations though. I did cancel my Netflix membership - I can't and won't support normalization of pedophilia.
Did you watch the movie? Or cancel based on headline reading/twitter comments?
exactly, I watched enough to know it wasn't my cup of tea, but I don't think there was anything in there that was going to cause a wave of pedophilia like the pearl clutchers thought.
Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle
#98For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…
If we want to talk about moral virtue, actions speak louder than words. Dave, by the sounds of it was a kind and gracious friend to Daphne and this was corroborated by her family. He offered her to open for him in a club as well, a great opportunity given his tenure as a comedian. In addition, upon hearing of her passing, setup a trust for her daughter. The twitter mob on the other hand tried to have her cancelled af…
In the twisted world of Twitter, virtue-signaling and calling people out gets you more recognition than any kind action that actually makes a damn difference.
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More black trans women were violently murdered in 2020 than in any other year since HRC began tracking. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra... 2021 is looking to surpass that... Part of his criticism was centered around how the 'alphabet people' have made rapid strides, but that conveniently forgets that black people can be gay or trans too, and also haven't made the same gains white LGBTQ fo…
>This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. Papa John?
I'm fairly certain that was primarily his coke? habit and the n-word fiasco was the excuse the board needed. Also he definitely was given interviews afterward while he was promising a very sweaty 'day of reckoning'.
https://twitter.com/bubbaprog/status/1199167890370510848
But fair enough, I haven't seen much of him since.
Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle
#100For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…
I find it interesting that you use inflammatory language like “cancelled by the mob” while copying terminology and unsupported theories that tabloids like the Daily Mail use to incite outrage and mob-like reactions of their own. She committed suicide after what appears to be a troubled life, months after being criticized by other members of the trans community on Twitter. Unless you have some special knowledge of her…
It was six days after being dragged by Trans Twitter, according to Dave.
Why engage with the jackals who drive one of their own to suicide and claim to have a negative opinion but won't watch the special? Why give them any special treatment?