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1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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To be fair, cuties had a lot of controversy around it too. As with such matters, that's long forgotten in the world of twitter and people have moved on to the next thing. This too will pass.

No "walkouts" or resignations though. I did cancel my Netflix membership - I can't and won't support normalization of pedophilia.

Did you watch the movie? Or cancel based on headline reading/twitter comments?

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

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Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

> but he did it in an offensive way.

How so?

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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> but he did it in an offensive way I find this part of the statement to be a falsehood. He did it in a comedic way, which was part of the point he was trying to make. See: https://nypost.com/2021/10/15/airplane-creator-slams-joy-kil...

Something said by a comedian doesn’t make it a joke. And something being a joke doesn’t shield it (or the teller) from criticism.

A man claiming that he's a woman because he wears a dress and make-up and really believes he's a woman is kind of inherently funny, in an absurd way.

Feels like we're all living inside a Monty Python sketch right now. That one from Life of Brian comes to mind.

And if this is what people consider important enough to go on strike for, then that's even more bizarrely amusing. A thousand people bunking off work because a comedian told some jokes about this. It's astounding really.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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> If you don't like the company's decisions, you should stop working for the company - easy enough. That's exactly the threat here, but with an opportunity for the company to alter its decision making if it wants the labor.

What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wanted to walk out of classes or miss exams but also wanted special treatment so they didn't fail the class. I've got no problem with not working at a place whose values you dont agree with, but I see this kind of action (and similar things at other te…

> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out?

The employees would go on to complain about being improperly let go. This is what happened to Google AI Ethicist Timnit Gebru [0]. She wrote a very public letter demanding changes or she'll resign and Google took her up on the offer. If you go through her twitter[1] you can see she made the firing into her identity now even though it happened nearly a year ago now. It's kind of sad

[0] https://www.theverge.com/2020/12/3/22150355/google-fires-tim...

[1] https://twitter.com/timnitGebru

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

The only positive mainstream review I’ve seen of his special was not all that positive, but that it was really a Rorschach test for your political leanings. What are the chances not one mainstream outlet had a positive review, was it really that unfunny? He makes jokes about Jews, and Blacks, and Whites, that are completely overshadowed by Twitter (which is not a real place) claiming it was entirely anti-trans. No on…

More black trans women were violently murdered in 2020 than in any other year since HRC began tracking. https://www.hrc.org/resources/fatal-violence-against-the-tra...

2021 is looking to surpass that...

Part of his criticism was centered around how the 'alphabet people' have made rapid strides, but that conveniently forgets that black people can be gay or trans too, and also haven't made the same gains white LGBTQ folks have.

I'll gladly cede that America is more structurally and culturally anti-black than they are anti-LGBTQ, but that isn't the argument he was making.

This is a pet peeve of mine, but someone actually tell me which millionaire/billionaire actually remained 'cancelled' after being cancelled. As far as I can tell, the only people actually being cancelled are the trans people being fired from their jobs for finding the special distasteful and voicing that publicly.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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If you don't like the company's decisions, you should stop working for the company - easy enough. I feel like the social justice brigade needs to seriously lighten up - maybe don't watch content that sets you off so easily? Just like everyone has had to do since.. the invention of television and other broadcast media?

> e the social justice brigade needs to seriously lighten up

AS long as their tactics keep working (and they do since everybody is submitting to their will), I don't see that changing.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wanted to walk out of classes or miss exams but also wanted special treatment so they didn't fail the class. I've got no problem with not working at a place whose values you dont agree with, but I see this kind of action (and similar things at other te…

> What would you say if Netflix called their bluff and just fired all the people that walked out? They work at FAANG. Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly. I suspect people involved with work stoppages who aren't protected via a union are keenly aware of the possibility of being fired and have deemed it worth the risk. > This reminds me more of the student protests we used to see, where they wante…

> Pretty sure they'll be able to get new jobs very quickly.

That's what makes it so good for both parties: Netflix would get rid of employees who are holding the company back, and the employees could easily find new places to work. Seems very mutually beneficial.

> This is literally a text book example of the type of action organized labour takes when its mad about something.

It's not, really. Strikes are usually about workers: their pay, their conditions, their environment.

Re: 1k Netflix employees threaten work stoppage over Dave Chappelle

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For those who haven't seen the special, the core of the controversy appears to be Chappelle mourning his friend, Daphne Dorman. She was a transgender standup comedian who opened for Chappelle and defended his comedy against the Twitter mob. She killed herself shortly after she was canceled by the mob and Chappelle set up a trust fund for her daughter. Chappelle paid tribute to her in his special, but he did it in an…

I find it interesting that you use inflammatory language like “cancelled by the mob” while copying terminology and unsupported theories that tabloids like the Daily Mail use to incite outrage and mob-like reactions of their own.

She committed suicide after what appears to be a troubled life, months after being criticized by other members of the trans community on Twitter. Unless you have some special knowledge of her motives beyond what was in the note, it seems exploitative to use it as a vehicle for your political views. Similarly, rather than claiming that people who are reacting negatively haven’t watched Chappelle’s special, it’d be better to try to engage intellectually with what they’re actually saying rather than finding an excuse not to.

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