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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by breakfastduck »

notyourwork wrote: post #259
breakfastduck wrote: post #60

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I absolutely love it when people working on a product tell their customers that they don't need a feature they're all asking for and that would clearly improve the experience, just because not everyone uses it all the time.

> they're all asking for All is the flaw in your comment. One person does not imply all and data speaks for itself.

If x number of people are asking for something, all of those people are asking for it. I think it was pretty obvious I wasn't claiming all spotify users are asking for this.

I'm a PO so feel sufficiently qualified to state that user analytics data is completely redundant for looking at small use high value features & undervaluing direct user feedback from your 'power users' is generally a bad move.

Again, just because not everyone needs/wants a feature does not make it useless or not worth implementing.

Data doesn't tell you how useful a feature is, it tells you how frequently it's used & how many people use it. They are not the same things.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by breakfastduck »

marginalia_nu wrote: post #473
notyourwork wrote: post #259

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> they're all asking for All is the flaw in your comment. One person does not imply all and data speaks for itself.

The data does not speak at all. You are drawing inferences based on the data, inferences of a type that are pretty easy to poke holes in by looking at the pretty large class of things rarely used but situationaly useful (often life saving). This type of bizarre logic makes me feel like I have to habitually use features even when they are not useful in order to protect them from UX designers in case I'm subject to som…

UX designers not sufficiently held in check by strong product teams are lethal.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by anakaine »

distances wrote: post #430
anakaine wrote: post #419

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Also, how about giving me the ability to not hear songs with certain words in them. I'm not a tea totaller or holier than thou Nancy, but I really don't want to hear any more songs from the hood rapping about their gangsta money hoes and all the other things that are basically domestic violence, gun violence, racism, gang mentality and "I'm so tough" stories all in one. Spotify keeps recommending them even though I s…

You can disable songs with explicit lyrics in your settings, if that isn't too wide a net.

This is a bit of a wide net I'm afraid. That said, someone else pointed out that I might be able to hide artists. That could be a partial surrogate for blocking a theme / specific content.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by anakaine »

hashhar wrote: post #475
anakaine wrote: post #419

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Also, how about giving me the ability to not hear songs with certain words in them. I'm not a tea totaller or holier than thou Nancy, but I really don't want to hear any more songs from the hood rapping about their gangsta money hoes and all the other things that are basically domestic violence, gun violence, racism, gang mentality and "I'm so tough" stories all in one. Spotify keeps recommending them even though I s…

You would love Cigarettes from the Fort Minor album The Rising Tied then. It talks about exactly what you are saying - why do all raps have to be about guns, violence, drugs and domestic violence etc.

I'll check it out. Thanks!

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by anakaine »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #449
anakaine wrote: post #419

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Also, how about giving me the ability to not hear songs with certain words in them. I'm not a tea totaller or holier than thou Nancy, but I really don't want to hear any more songs from the hood rapping about their gangsta money hoes and all the other things that are basically domestic violence, gun violence, racism, gang mentality and "I'm so tough" stories all in one. Spotify keeps recommending them even though I s…

Surely, that has more to do with common themes in the music you frequent than spotify pushing these themes on you. If you don't like the themes that frequent the genre you are listening to most often, the solution seems to be to find alternative genres. I don't tend to get these themes often when listening to electro-swing, for example. And like the other reply said, you can disable explicit lyrics and I'm pretty sur…

I suspect its possibly to do with my families preferred listening - two teenagers. We are on a shared family plan - so theoretically each have our own accounts. There seems to be some bleed across.

I'll need to check in to whether I can block specific artists.

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Post by Cederfjard »

spywaregorilla wrote: post #532
pc86 wrote: post #514

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Yes, if you want to curate an entire playlist. Not everyone does. And if anyone has the enough data to generate these kinds of disparate playlists on their own with minimal user input/direction, it would be Spotify.

I don't really follow. If we're talking about something so specific as "what songs would a band play on their own set list" that should be manually curated, and in a very short amount of time. If it's just general vibes... spotify already does this for you. They have an entire section called "Made for you" which seems to cluster your tastes and generate playlists of them. Perhaps you just want to generate a cluster o…

They’re saying they want even more specific ”made for you” features - not just tailored for a person, but tailored for a person and a certain context (like they mentioned as examples - when they’re on their own, when they’re having dinner with friends, when they’re throwing a party etc). Presumably you would tell the app what your current setting is.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Post by zentiggr »

_puk wrote: post #555
HeavyStorm wrote: post #526

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I tried every service available in my region trying to find the best "shuffle" out suggestion service. Deezer was quite good for a while, but right now I am sticking with yt music. IMO Spotify is the worst.

Deezer flow is my go to for this, and they've recently added moods, which really helps. I find I often start flow, get a few songs in and jump onto an album based on the currently playing song. Really great for discovery of music I've not heard (before or for a while). Spotify seems to always end up merging back to some generic tracks that I've heard so many times before. That said, I've been training Deezer (they ha…

I saw Deezer, but it looked like they didn't have much mainstream music. Did I read that wrong?

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Post by ryantgtg »

tehjoker wrote: post #324
brenainn wrote: post #319

A dislike button would be handy. There is that feature on some of the generated playlists, but I don't think they do anything. My two biggest issues with Spotify right now are: 1. Release Radar filled with re-releases and remixes, often from artists who have long since passed away. I want new music as in released for the first time. 2. Name collisions. I'm surprised this is an issue, but I will often get songs from d…

How do you find good music blogs? I've basically given up on the recommendation engines and I don't have a ton of musically tuned in friends.

I frequent the bandcamp daily blog, and I follow a few people on bandcamp who tend to actively buy music I’m interested in (I just go through the users who have bought an album I like, then I look at their other purchases). On top of that bandcamp sends me a weekly “you may be interested in” email that often has at least one thing I’m actually interested in.

I read some blogs. But overall I discover a lot on bandcamp - more than I can process.

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Post by fomine3 »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #484
another-dave wrote: post #465

Would be great if Spotify had * "good fit"/"bad fit" button — I like a wide variety of music, but it needs to be appropriate to context. If I start a radio from a song, I'd like to teach it to tailor the suggested songs better but that doesn't mean I dislike the songs it _is_ suggesting. * Ability to give the social context — a band playing at a music festival will lean more towards hits in their back catalogue. At t…

There is an opening for this. I would switch streaming service for a better shuffle algorithm.

YouTube Music supports using multiple Brand Account by single account. It can be switched easily so seems to suitable for such use case.
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