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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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I've never used Spotify or any other recommendation service. Music is like food: it's far too important too substitute with junk. I won't eat Subway, I won't listen to auto-generated recommendations. I browse (and support) rateyourmusic.com, I use the last.fm API (to find out what my neighbors are listening to) and I listen to music for free on YouTube before I buy it. I also heavily use tags on my purchased music so…

The problem: you don't want to be DJ-ing at work, where your time is better spent on more important things than what music you will listen to.

To the contrary, that's precisely what I want to be doing at work often enough.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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I'll never use Spotify again. My account was hacked by a latino and now my recommendations is 100% latin music. They told me there is nothing they can do to fix this. My recommendations are broken and my only option is to create another account, cancel my subscription, buy it again... Not gonna happen.

I keep getting recommended German music. I'm not German.

... is it really that odd that you get suggestions for music from other places in other languages?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#253

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

I think it is sad that there isn’t a way to recognize the development of competence in music listening— with an achievement motivation. Like, mastering genres with a music collection. Aesthetic pleasure in pleasant recommendations without any principles makes me feel vacant after a time.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#254

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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I would like to see varying levels of dislike. For me personally there are a wide variety of reasons that I might wish to “dislike” something and with something like Pandora I always have to wonder if the impact of dislinking will be appropriate.

Some levels of dislike off the top of my head

Hate the whole genre

Hate the artist, but not the genre

Hate the song, but not the artist

And so on and so forth, the same applies on the like side of the equation as well.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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You’re speaking as if you work beside me and have a clue about anything in the music industry. There’s a reason Spotify doesn’t but uses to have dislike buttons more accessible. I’m not sure why you are disagreeing with me but there’s no need to speak down to someone because of different perspective. I have real world data and work in recommenders I’m not sure what your background is.

I am speaking as if I have no idea about your work and what you do. I am speaking as if I am addressing the specific incredibly stupid thing you said, from a user point of view. You know who does not care about your music "industry" or your "work?" The users of spotify. They care about listening to music they want to listen to. My background is I listen to music using things that play it. Spotify is absolute crap bec…

Based on how you talk to people you sound like a terrible person to work with.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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My dismissal is based on a many-million digit customer base and online real world data. Sorry if a few hackernews users feel they want a dislike button, most users don't and if you give to them most users don't use it. I don't mind disagreement but dismissing real world data from this industry is sort of silly to counter with 'because I want it you're wrong'.

I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm saying your argument for not including it for (at the very least) a sizeable minority is weak and somewhat silly.

What is a sizable minority aside from an oxymoron?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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Without specifics I cannot guess as to your specific case but in general customer's just do not use dislike buttons. So exposing them isn't a value add and usually a UI clutter that most customer's have no use for and won't use. In general, you had to be doing something to be getting recommendations so there is some action that when most customer's do demonstrates a high probability that you will like some genre and…

I absolutely love it when people working on a product tell their customers that they don't need a feature they're all asking for and that would clearly improve the experience, just because not everyone uses it all the time.

> they're all asking for

All is the flaw in your comment. One person does not imply all and data speaks for itself.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#260

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You’re speaking as if you work beside me and have a clue about anything in the music industry. There’s a reason Spotify doesn’t but uses to have dislike buttons more accessible. I’m not sure why you are disagreeing with me but there’s no need to speak down to someone because of different perspective. I have real world data and work in recommenders I’m not sure what your background is.

You have real world data but it’s not at all clear that you’ve been interpreting it correctly.

It is also not clear that your opinion is grounded in reality. Not sure what more to say.
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