One problem that I have with Spotify is just how often does it repeat songs. Yes, I liked it, I still do, but may be don't play it the times in one week? How do I communicate this and get to discover new music instead?
Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#472Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not even saying you're wrong, I'm saying your argument for not including it for (at the very least) a sizeable minority is weak and somewhat silly.
What is a sizable minority aside from an oxymoron?
A minority is anything that is not a majority (this is the definition I'm using). So a < 50% group can hopefully still be viewed as non-negligible, even though it is not the majority.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#473Earlier quoted context omitted.
I absolutely love it when people working on a product tell their customers that they don't need a feature they're all asking for and that would clearly improve the experience, just because not everyone uses it all the time.
> they're all asking for All is the flaw in your comment. One person does not imply all and data speaks for itself.
The data does not speak at all. You are drawing inferences based on the data, inferences of a type that are pretty easy to poke holes in by looking at the pretty large class of things rarely used but situationaly useful (often life saving).
This type of bizarre logic makes me feel like I have to habitually use features even when they are not useful in order to protect them from UX designers in case I'm subject to some misguided A/B test.
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#474I'm genuinely confused by people who complain about Spotify's recommendation algorithm. I have eclectic, often obscure tastes, and I've found it to be an incredible way to discover new music. I think you do have to prime the engine a bit. I "like" a lot of albums and songs. Every time I hear something new that I like I press the little heart button. Same when I discover music outside of Spotify (I listen to WFMU a lo…
I did find it to be extremely poor but once I started liking individual songs, not whole albums it does better. Still, I'm not sure it uses other listening habits to feed the engine such as:
- Early skipping a song from a generated play list (-1). - Repeat playing the same song from a generated play list (+1)
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#475Things I want from Spotify: - Fix the damn album artwork in the browser. A big part of enjoying an album is viewing the cover and liner art. Let me do that full-screen with zoom. - Let me create genre-limited radio stations from my likes. Don't just play songs from my likes. If I'm in the mood for , say, 80s hip-hop, I want a radio station based off my liked 80s hip-hop songs which includes related artists. - Hide th…
Also, how about giving me the ability to not hear songs with certain words in them. I'm not a tea totaller or holier than thou Nancy, but I really don't want to hear any more songs from the hood rapping about their gangsta money hoes and all the other things that are basically domestic violence, gun violence, racism, gang mentality and "I'm so tough" stories all in one. Spotify keeps recommending them even though I s…
You would love Cigarettes from the Fort Minor album The Rising Tied then.
It talks about exactly what you are saying - why do all raps have to be about guns, violence, drugs and domestic violence etc.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#476Earlier quoted context omitted.
But there is a difference between "I don't feel like this now" and "I hate this" that skipping a track doesn't capture.
That difference is easily captured by the cases where you don't skip that track. If you have listened to a track two times and on the third case skip it, then that's "I don't feel like this now"; if you have been offered that track twice and skipped it both times immediately, then you probably hate this.
I often leave my computer playing music, and step away for 15+ minutes to have a conversation. So "you have listened to a track two times" may be a false indication of "like".
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#477A dislike button would be handy. There is that feature on some of the generated playlists, but I don't think they do anything. My two biggest issues with Spotify right now are: 1. Release Radar filled with re-releases and remixes, often from artists who have long since passed away. I want new music as in released for the first time. 2. Name collisions. I'm surprised this is an issue, but I will often get songs from d…
My problem with "Release Radar" are all the singles (and, as you say, remix stuff; sometimes it's an EP with one original track and multiple remixes). If a musician I follow releases a single, I'm not really interested until it's actually released on an album. So the only way to consume "Release Radar" is to click into every release to look at what's inside.
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#478I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…
There are two issues with 5 star ranking. One the more thought required to give feedback the less likely users give feedback. More interactions is very helpful for ml so minimizing the decisions needed by a user helps a lot. Great ui/ux for engagement aims for signals to require as little action from the user as possible. As a side effect short content is very nice as finish/playtime become strong signals that requir…
> One the more thought required to give feedback the less likely users give feedback.
That is great! This means the people giving feedback would tend to be power users that are able to giver higher quality feedback.
> As a side effect short content is very nice as finish/playtime become strong signals that require a user to do almost nothing.
Perfect! It is clear by now that users vastly prefer short content that gets to the point quickly.
So basically 5 stars ranking would vastly increase the quality of the content but that is bad, how?
The only issue I see is (political) vote brigading. Maybe set additional hurdles like minimum account age and the like for voting. Strong content moderation could help. I guess there is no silver bullet for that issue.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#479A dislike button would be handy. There is that feature on some of the generated playlists, but I don't think they do anything. My two biggest issues with Spotify right now are: 1. Release Radar filled with re-releases and remixes, often from artists who have long since passed away. I want new music as in released for the first time. 2. Name collisions. I'm surprised this is an issue, but I will often get songs from d…
2. "Name collision" unfortunately that's not Spotify's fault but the artist who set the wrong Artists ID. So instead of creating a new one for themself, they just use an already existing one with the same name. What I did in the last i just email the record label ( if they have one ) and ask them. In my case i listen to metal, but every know and then a mediocre rap song shows up in my RR. Usually because the artist i…
Spotify at least seems to have a few humans employed to take tips about mislabeled releases and fix them. (For instance, they removed the albums of the Salvadorean rapper Spiro from the page of the British folk band Spiro when I mailed them about it.) Most streaming services have nothing of the sort. Music metadata sucks, but Spotify is actually slightly less godawful than the norm.
Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations
#480I'm apparently in the minority, but I long for a return of the 5-star ranking. I really miss that about itunes, being able to rank each song, and set up smart playlists based on genre and how much variety (how deep in the star rankings) I wanted. I'd have to think an intelligent recommendation engine could do a ton more with star rankings than a simple up/down too. 5=love, 4=like, 3=ok, 2=dislike, 1=hate. It could ev…
It’d be better as: +2 love +1 like 0 don’t mind it -1 dislike -2 never again
It's called a Likert scale:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Likert_scale