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The Fugate family of Kentucky has had blue skin for centuries (2017)

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Re: The Fugate family of Kentucky has had blue skin for centuries (2017)

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Post by robbedpeter »

dougmwne wrote: post #2

The discovery of the treatment in the methylene blue dye is quite fascinating. How exactly did someone figure that out for such a rare condition? And imagine being deep blue all your life and everyone knowing you as blue, then you take this blue pill and bam, you're pink as can be. Must have seemed like practical magic.

Methylene blue was widely used in malaria treatment, and after its relative safety was figured out, ease of access meant doctors went nuts trying it out on all sorts of conditions. And it worked as a treatment for all sorts of things, and was issued to soldiers in the field through wwii. It's a MAOI and shows up in nootropic stacks and discussions all the time.

Makes you pee blue, can treat effects of carbon monoxide poisoning, etc. There were lots of opportunities for someone with blue skin to have encountered the stuff.

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Post by robbedpeter »

supermatt wrote: post #39
jeffbee wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He turned blue from silver poisoning, he did not develop methemoglobinemia from it.

Silver nitrate is a known cause of acquired methemoglobinemia.

https://www.webmd.com/skin-problems-and-treatments/argyria-o....

Different conditions. What happens with colloidal silver is the buildup of silver oxides in tissues, permanently staining them blue.

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Post by shoto_io »

prvc wrote: post #18

>Though today Benjy and most of the Fugate family descendants have lost their blue coloring, the tint still comes out in their skin when they are cold or flush with anger. I wish they had included at least one photograph of this.

If you Google the last name you’ll find some pictures

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Post by slim »

prvc wrote: post #18

>Though today Benjy and most of the Fugate family descendants have lost their blue coloring, the tint still comes out in their skin when they are cold or flush with anger. I wish they had included at least one photograph of this.

search for methemoglobinemia

Re: The Fugate family of Kentucky has had blue skin for centuries (2017)

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Post by philwelch »

jeffbee wrote: post #30
andai wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's some photos of Paul Karason on Google Images, who developed the same condition from silver poisoning.

He turned blue from silver poisoning, he did not develop methemoglobinemia from it.

So did this guy: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Jones_(Libertarian_poli...

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Post by boomboomsubban »

ocimbote wrote: post #37
boomboomsubban wrote: post #33

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I get their point, homeopathy has two bs gimmicks. The first is to use a substance that causes the ailment as a cure, the second is to replace that substance with water/sugar and the idea of the substance. Using a blue substance to cure someone who's blue is similar to the first gimmick, but here they actually use the substance and medically tested it.

For the sake of clarity: I will not stand on the side of homeopathy, ever. It's placebo effect marketing rather than evidence-based science and hence not worth my money.

I didn't think you did, but valid things can share traits with bullshit and still be valid things.

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Post by dr_dshiv »

ocimbote wrote: post #37
boomboomsubban wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get their point, homeopathy has two bs gimmicks. The first is to use a substance that causes the ailment as a cure, the second is to replace that substance with water/sugar and the idea of the substance. Using a blue substance to cure someone who's blue is similar to the first gimmick, but here they actually use the substance and medically tested it.

For the sake of clarity: I will not stand on the side of homeopathy, ever. It's placebo effect marketing rather than evidence-based science and hence not worth my money.

What about when placebo-based medicine offers better patient outcomes, for certain disorders? E.g., for sleep medicine without side effects? We used homeopathy for my daughters car sickness and it worked great.
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