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Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#102

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

Yeah, this is the exact reason I switched to Apple Music even though I'm on Android, since their playlists (for the most part) seem to actually be made based on what they think will be interesting for the listeners, not what they got paid to promote. I might be wrong though and just getting played.

I use Apple Music because it works well with the rest of the ecosystem. But the official playlists just seem to resurface what’s already popular, at least for dance, electronic and hip-hop. Whereas Spotify introduced me to new music. Maybe it depends on what genres you listen to?

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #90

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

That's the exact reason I switched to YouTube Music. I remember even about 10 years ago, last.fm's algorithm on bringing songs I would enjoy basing on previously listened/liked songs was far more accurate than Spotify's today.

I just switched to youtube music, its leagues better than spotify. YouTube music seems to have a pretty solid recommendation algorithm, and I frequently find music more in tune with my tastes there than on spotify. Honestly, I would not mind seeing spotify disappear.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #81

Spotify had both thumbs up and thumbs down button a while ago. It even asked why do you thumb down something: Wrong Rec Do not like the artist/show less Do not like this song Heard it too many times/pause for a bit etc... It got removed... as the whole functionality (Radio) got phased out, and the new stuff didn't incorporate it. Employees changed, and moved on to other companies, and the new that came didn't think i…

You might be on to something with the idea that it was there it was removed. I might presume it was removed because data showed that customers don't use it. The rest of this thread seems to think otherwise.

The idea of resetting recommendations is a minority feature ask from customers as well and I wish companies (including my own) handled that better. Sadly its a pretty expensive project for such a minority stake.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

#107
post #82

I cancelled spotify recently when I had a guest in my car who proceeded to play all her favorite music on my account. I wanted to remove her music from my history so spotify would hopefully not recommend her music to me but there is no way to delete your history https://community.spotify.com/t5/Your-Library/2021-how-do-we... Account deleted. I know I'm not the norm but Spotify has never done a good job for me recomme…

> I cancelled spotify recently when I had a guest in my car who proceeded to play all her favorite music on my account. There should be an Incognito mode on every music streaming service for this reason.

Spotify has an incognito mode.

https://support.spotify.com/us/article/private-listening/

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #90

So basically they’re developing a product marketed to streaming platforms to identify what’s “more attractive” to consumers. The algorithms are still optimized for increasing sales and engagement, not improving recommendations (for the user). That’s exactly why I’m unhappy with Spotify lately. I feel I’m being sold a bunch of corporate portfolios on what’s currently in vogue, and not just artistically but politically…

That's the exact reason I switched to YouTube Music. I remember even about 10 years ago, last.fm's algorithm on bringing songs I would enjoy basing on previously listened/liked songs was far more accurate than Spotify's today.

Fwiw, I was shocked how much better YouTube music was than Spotify. I turned on the trial on a whim, and now I actually miss it (it expired a few days ago).

It was so nice that I’m seriously considering just turning off Spotify. It’s sort of interesting to analyze why we don’t —- for me, it’s become unconscious habit to reach for Spotify and not anything else. Plus a lot of other stuff integrates well with it.

(What if… what if we can use both? Mind asplode, it’s not a decision.)

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I cancelled spotify recently when I had a guest in my car who proceeded to play all her favorite music on my account. There should be an Incognito mode on every music streaming service for this reason.

Yeah I made the mistake of letting my daughter watch nursery rhymes on YouTube a few times. Guess what happened to my YouTube Music....

FYI, Google gives you some decent tools for managing your YouTube watch history. You can search by date or title, and you can also turn on auto-delete.

Re: Dislike button would improve Spotify's recommendations

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post #78

An option to hide all podcasts would significantly improve spotify's recommendations. I don't listen to podcasts (though I have accidentally clicked on one, when a podcast interviewed a musician I like... blech). Why is my screen filled with podcasts multiple times per day? I like the music recommendations, "so and so artist radio," etc., but they make me hunt for them. Also, while I like a broad variety of genres, I…

I agree. Spotify acknowledged the request to remove podcasts from the home screen in June of this year: https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/All-Platforms-Po... Keep adding votes and pressuring them.
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