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It’s crazy how often these activists footgun. Deleting google drive off a work phone during an investigation?
I guess I’m just old school but I come from a time when I’d be fired for any negative public or even internal comments. And I’m ok with that. I’d rather just quit than try to change a company this way. Or I’d just work into leadership and make executive decisions. Or I’d start a company and do it my way. I just don’t see leadership being convinced by me complaining on Twitter or starting an internal complaint slack c…
I unfortunately never had the right guidance to get there and hopefully my kids one day will. I can’t complain as things worked out —- but still.
I see these employee issues pop up from time to time and I guess I just don’t understand it. I’m not trying to be cruel to the people speaking out.
Just I truly don’t understand it. Ungodly money. Ungodly benefits. Working interesting problems everyday. Changing the world. Impacting millions of lives. The best of some of the best teams.
No job is perfect and whatever beef exists at Apple right now is 1000x better than some of the trash jobs out there and what some jobs are like in the real universe. It’s not to say Apple should go without ridicule or improvement.
Just an outsider perspective who sees Lannisters killing each other in their perfect castle.
Not advocating anything. Just hard to imagine walking into Apple and having a tough time or not enjoying it. I suffered much worse for much less in my life.
Cheers to everyone trying to improve things though.
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If I am in top 1% worker, and if union is generally flatten the salaries to make me receive less for others more, why should I not "nodding along on union busting talking points"? I like my very very large paycheck.
> if union is generally flatten the salaries to make me receive less for others more Who says that’s what will happen? Tom Cruise is a member of SAG, do you think he gets paid SAG union rates? Union busters in tech have done a fantastic job of convincing engineers that all unions are blue-collar. Which is funny, because you only have to look to Hollywood to see unions like SAG, the DGA, and the WGA which exist to pro…
The Wizard of Speed and Time is a great film about how difficult it is to be an independent creator in Hollywood due to the costs of getting anything started. The unions make it very hard to bootstrap anything without massive financing.
I’m curious how Pokémon Go and her (presumably personal) Robinhood account were pertinent to whatever investigation they were conducting. Regardless, I find it hard to believe she “deleted” anything. Removed it from the phone, perhaps, but I’m willing to bet Apple is more than capable of accessing whatever investigative information they need on the phones they provide to their employees.
There was a Twitter tread about how some woman’s photos are now owned by Apple because her phone was involved in some legal action.
It’s hard but keep this stuff separate.
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It's not immaterial, and apple is crazy for firing her for deleting Pokemon go, if that is the actual reason and she didn't delete any actual data.
That's just there for the sympathetic headlines — she deleted Google Drive as well, and we can all easily imagine what that suggests. I think a good rule as an employee is "if instructed to hand over your phone as part of an investigation, don't delete stuff before doing so."
I’m curious how Pokémon Go and her (presumably personal) Robinhood account were pertinent to whatever investigation they were conducting. Regardless, I find it hard to believe she “deleted” anything. Removed it from the phone, perhaps, but I’m willing to bet Apple is more than capable of accessing whatever investigative information they need on the phones they provide to their employees.
Some Apple employees are reportedly required to link their personal iCloud with their work account/devices, so there's probably no bright line there. It could have been a personal device that was linked to her work account, or a work device linked to her personal iCloud. https://www.theverge.com/22648265/apple-employee-privacy-icl...
My decision to carry two devices has proved to be a lifesaver during the pandemic wherein boundaries between life and work have been blurred almost to oblivion.
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It's not immaterial, and apple is crazy for firing her for deleting Pokemon go, if that is the actual reason and she didn't delete any actual data.
That's just there for the sympathetic headlines — she deleted Google Drive as well, and we can all easily imagine what that suggests. I think a good rule as an employee is "if instructed to hand over your phone as part of an investigation, don't delete stuff before doing so."
https://www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/2015/7/28/9060211/tom-...
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> What if you found every other company were the same way? Then make your own company, or failing that, start to think critically about why every company is structured in the way it is. Maybe others have tried it your way and it didn't work? > That's like telling somebody living in a monarchy that if they want influence over their lives, they just have to marry into the royal family. Luckily, because of the freedom t…
to continue in that metaphor, it's worth noting that here and most anywhere with something resembling "the freedom this country offers" was formerly a monarchy in which people thinking critically about the way it was structured started causing chaos and sowing discontent, so they could try this other way that people didn't think would work. say about that what you will. it's not surprising that efforts are being made…
That’s probably the best euphemism I’ve heard since “enhanced interrogation techniques”
I’m curious how Pokémon Go and her (presumably personal) Robinhood account were pertinent to whatever investigation they were conducting. Regardless, I find it hard to believe she “deleted” anything. Removed it from the phone, perhaps, but I’m willing to bet Apple is more than capable of accessing whatever investigative information they need on the phones they provide to their employees.
There were some comments about a similar situation a while back. It seems Apple gives you an iPhone. It seems like a perk but it’s hard to keep your “personal” Apple accounts separate from you “work” ones. There was a Twitter tread about how some woman’s photos are now owned by Apple because her phone was involved in some legal action. It’s hard but keep this stuff separate.
Moreover, who would be stupid enough to trust their work phone for anything personal? I don't even log into my bank accounts on work equipment. I assume all my work equipment is totally compromised with spyware.