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Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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In my experience most browsers based on these major engines, like Vivaldi, Edge or whatever have broken dev tools. You'd be better using Safari for that imo.

Brave working perfectly fine here. Do you work for Apple? :D I've never heard anyone defend Safari's dev tools over Chrom(e/ium)'s before.

Brave works pretty fine to be fair. No I'm not saying they're better than Chrome's, I just run into a lot of issues with chromium-based browsers.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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In my experience most browsers based on these major engines, like Vivaldi, Edge or whatever have broken dev tools. You'd be better using Safari for that imo.

Edge's devtools seem to work very well to me -- what have you run into?

Some weird stuff, most issues are placed in the responsive mode.

They fixed some already, like the resolution selector not being working properly and etc. One that still annoys the heck out of me is the fact that when you right mouse click to re-open the inspect tool the window just selects whatever option it's above your mouse pointer (usually the print option...). One workaround is just keep the mouse pressed and select the option you want.

Brave is literally the only chromium brased browser (besides Chrome itself), on which dev tools work flawlessy.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Hey everyone, I am the founder behind Orion, bootstrapping the project. Started working on it three years ago with a small team just to see if it would be possible to build something like this from scratch and we just kept going. Orion is today a daily browser for a few dozen beta-testers and it warms my heart to see that we got that far considering the competition. Few questions about Orion answered that I see pop p…

Wait, is this the same Kagi that used to provide shareware payment processing services some decades ago?

Edit: Hmm, I guess not https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/01/kagi-shuts-down/

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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In the same way Safari does (so it basically doesn't :) We can go into various reasons why is that the case but fundamentally we agree with that approach. What we are planning to do though is have "Web apps" support, similar to Flotato [1], which will allow the user to achieve the same (or better) effect. [1] https://www.flotato.com/

Interesting! Would that also work on iOS or desktop only? I am asking because I would like to be able to have a seamless code-server experience on iPad.

We will have a similar version of that for iOS.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

#185

Hey everyone, I am the founder behind Orion, bootstrapping the project. Started working on it three years ago with a small team just to see if it would be possible to build something like this from scratch and we just kept going. Orion is today a daily browser for a few dozen beta-testers and it warms my heart to see that we got that far considering the competition. Few questions about Orion answered that I see pop p…

Wait, is this the same Kagi that used to provide shareware payment processing services some decades ago? Edit: Hmm, I guess not https://www.macrumors.com/2016/08/01/kagi-shuts-down/

It is not: https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#oldkagi

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Ditto Firefox. I'd use it a lot more. Right now, only for YouTube. Also, I hope Orion has hooks needed for uBlock. (Preparse hook?) For whatever reason, Safari + 1Blocker doesn't filter YouTube's ads. I'll use fulltime which ever browser that has both keychain and blocks youtube ads.

Firefox works with keychain in mac, there's specific settings you have to use. They seem to be considered enterprise features so they'r ehidden in the about:config settings.

Thanks. I am fail. After a bit of foraging and poking around, I couldn't figure this out. My best guess is there was an extension, now obsolete.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Interesting! Would that also work on iOS or desktop only? I am asking because I would like to be able to have a seamless code-server experience on iPad.

We will have a similar version of that for iOS.

Wow that sounds too good to be true! Will definitely support this project!

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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I have been using Orion and my interest arose because it purportedly supports Firefox and Chrome extensions. It supports some, but not most. When I post about the extension I need most, xbrowsersync, in the Orion Discord forum I am ignored. It doesn't work - nor does any other extension which syncs bookmarks. Given this lack of support I can see little advantage over Safari TBH.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

#189

Being able to use both chrome and firefox extensions and having an iOS and macOS app is wonderful :-)

Don't get too excited. Many extensions do not work. It's as if Kagi needs to work on the code to make particular extensions work. I'm sure neither Firefox nor Chromium need to do that.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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If possible (a.k.a if Apple allows this) please integrate Keychain with this browser. I am not sure if there are many people like me, but I am using Keychain and it is the reason why I default to Safari and using any other browser it takes effort that I am doing, but I really wish Keychain could be integrated in other browsers too. LE: It seems they already support this as stated in their FAQ/"How does Orion store my…

Ditto Firefox. I'd use it a lot more. Right now, only for YouTube. Also, I hope Orion has hooks needed for uBlock. (Preparse hook?) For whatever reason, Safari + 1Blocker doesn't filter YouTube's ads. I'll use fulltime which ever browser that has both keychain and blocks youtube ads.

> I hope Orion has hooks needed for uBlock.

It does[1].

> For whatever reason, Safari + 1Blocker doesn't filter YouTube's ads.

It does, as part of a recent addition[2]. It’s a bespoke solution because it can’t be done with the content blocking tools Safari provides.

[1]: https://browser.kagi.com/faq.html#ublock

[2]: https://backstage.1blocker.com/how-to-block-youtube-ads-in-s...

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