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Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by trabant00 »

Servers require moderators/administrators. I hosted the counterstrike server in my university a long time ago, that's how I got into linux, and while at first I thought it would be a technical challenge it turned out to be a people problem mostly. Police language, resolve conflicts, even got into a physical fight with a banned player.

Obviously companies don't want server administrators because they want to scale without employees. But a multiplayer game is a socializing game and socializing without moderation is horrible. And I'm not talking about moderators that get reports out of context and don't know the players. A server admin, a game master, has to be in the community. You can't scale human interactions without turning them to shit.

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by Levitz »

menthe wrote: post #22

At this point, League of Legends is completely irrelevant. Watch/Play Dota2 - it was where it started and where it’s at (although to be exact Warcraft III’s DotA Allstars spawned from Warcraft III’s AOS custom map). The game has a team voice chat which eliminates toxicity almost completely, and taunts/high-fives/spray tags which gives interaction a positive twist. The game mechanics are so much more complex, and thus…

It's frankly impressive how even 10 years down the line the dota playerbase still holds a grudge.

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by Der_Einzige »

This will kill league of legends.

The most fun I've ever had in this game was playing, and winning the "psychological war" by intentionally tilting the other team. The moment I'd get a hint of internal strife within the other team, myself and my friends would do whatever we could (not offensive) to encourage keyboard warrioring because it literally would win us games. They'd get sloppy, spend time typing, and would occasionally rage quit.

The fact that this aspect of the game is lost means I am instantly dropping it, and switching to Dota 2. Many of my long time (like since 2010) league friends feel the same way, regardless of how much they have spent in the past.

This is super ironic since Riot has a bunch of internal culture problems with sexism (especially compared to pro-speech valve).

League of legends was already a dying game, but this is a pretty epic self-pwn.

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by [deleted] »

chmod775 wrote: post #9

That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. In fact /all chat can offset negative interactions you have with your team. It's not uncommon for someone from one team to give angry members of the other a "reality check" from an unbiased position, usually ending any t…

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Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by ridaj »

aeze wrote: post #25

Maybe a dumb question, but why is toxicity in chat a problem that needs to be solved (to the point of disabling all cross team chat)?

Maybe because a company like Riot can be held accountable for the poor content of its chats? (in the court of law I'm not sure, but in that of public opinion definitely)

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by alpaca128 »

Jare wrote: post #20
chmod775 wrote: post #9

That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. In fact /all chat can offset negative interactions you have with your team. It's not uncommon for someone from one team to give angry members of the other a "reality check" from an unbiased position, usually ending any t…

I feel that this is really an experiment to gather data on how dynamics change. A fairly radical one, but not something that they think is going to be "a solution" in itself. It's true in my (very old and short) experience with LoL, that the worst toxicity came from random teammates, but disabling team chat is not so easy to experiment. I would still bet that the solution lies in better in-game tools to replace team…

Instead of blocking a form of chat I'd just make the system auto-mute anyone using certain key words and phrases. Before the message is even shown. Reading or reacting to those kinds of messages doesn't help anyone, and the game already has a completely ineffective version of this in the form of censoring words (in the default setting).

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by ketzo »

chmod775 wrote: post #9

That's pretty misguided. It's team chat that is toxic, not /all chat. /all chat is typically full of jokes and banter. Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake. In fact /all chat can offset negative interactions you have with your team. It's not uncommon for someone from one team to give angry members of the other a "reality check" from an unbiased position, usually ending any t…

The point is not to shield people from the flame of their opponents. /mute exists, and in fact, you already have to opt in to having /all displayed in the first place.

The point of this change is to stop people from engaging.

> usually ending any toxicity right there.

Nope, nope, nope. This is online arguments 101. Engaging with angry, anonymous, online strangers does not deescalate; it makes them angrier and draws in others. Which, for what it's worth, is exactly what happens in /all.

Also:

> Your opponent is not going to flame you for making what they think is a mistake.

You... may not have not played very much League of Legends. This is, like, the literal number one use of /all.

Re: Disabling /all chat in matchmade queues

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Post by baq »

imgabe wrote: post #4
robin_reala wrote: post #2

Unfortunate mangling of the headline – chat is only being disabled in games with auto matchmaking – but it’s still an interesting development.

And only chat between teams. People on the same team can still chat with each other.

Should be muted by default, too
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