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Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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IIRC a few 737MAXs fell out of the sky. Clearly there being nothing wrong with the purpose nor concept of MCAS wasn't sufficient to keep the airplane from crashing.

If the wheels fall off your car, is the problem with the purpose or concept of wheels, or is the problem with weak axles?

Errr... I never said anything at all was wrong with MCAS.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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For a healthy person under 35, the odds of dying or having to be hospitalized shortly after receiving the vaccine are slightly higher than the odds of dying from COVID [1]. While the odds of any of these events, including dying from COVID, are low, there are certainly risks. We are faced with only bad choices in this pandemic - take a vaccine that has a high death/hospitalization rate relative to other vaccines, or r…

I'm sorry, but you just can't rely on VAERS data for a comparison like this. Literally anyone can submit a report to VAERS.

It’s the best data we have on this. The CDC officially denies any causal link between the vaccine and death [1]:

”A review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records, has not established a causal link to COVID-19 vaccines”

I can find 10 credible news reports of healthy individuals that died within 48 hours of receiving the vaccine in a minute of searching, so we know that the number 0 is complete nonsense.

Since the CDC numbers are comically wrong, we have to go to the next best source. The CDC itself is creating vaccine hesitancy by lying and misrepresenting statistics, which leads people to wonder what else they are lying about. Just the idea that they report adverse reaction rates based on number of doses administered, and not the number of vaccinated people, intentionally cuts the effective incident rate per person in half since two doses are required. That calls into question everything else they do. Nobody cares if it’s the first or second dose that kills or injures them. So the next best source is VAERS.

[1] https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/safety/ad...

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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Your anti-MBA, anti-profit-maximization rant misses one thing: Southwest is the only major US airline with zero bag fees (for the first 2), no business or first-class cabin, no seat upgrade charges, and until recently, the only one with no change fees (other airlines backed off change fees during the current pandemic). It doesn't chase major international routes, partner with 3rd party booking engines, or fly overnig…

>LUV has consistently, for 40+ years, optimized its culture over profits Something has changed in the last 10 years - the last five in particular. I obtained my frequent flyer number from them in 1985 and have flown them hundreds, if not thousands of time so yeah, I have a LOT of experience to draw from. A great overview of how they have optimized to the extreme to their detriment is by Juan Browne: https://www.youtu…

HK = Herb Kelleher, founder and CEO of Southwest Airlines

He stepped down just a few years before his death, in 2019.

A colorful character and legendary driver of the culture at Southwest.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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compelling argument

I don't see why an argument needs to be made for it? Being anti-vaccine is anti-public safety and an active attempt to undermine the stability of the country and society. It should be viewed as terroristic.

What time is the witch burning trial? coward.

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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> once you are vaccinated Again, this is fairly key. A large portion of the country is not yet eligible for the vaccines at this time. > That is a very weak rebuttal That is a very weak rebuttal.

2 Points 1. Vaccinated people still spread covid, Vaccination primary effect makes a person asymptomatic, this has been proven. 2. "Large portion" is false, it is children under 12, who have a lower chance of serious illness than a vaccinated person. That said if you as a parent feel that risk to do high then you as a parent can take measures to ensure you children only come in contact with vaccinated person, this ho…

> Vaccinated people still spread covid

Vaccinated people still spread COVID, but they're less likely to. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people...

"When infected with the delta variant, a given contact was 65 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. With AstraZeneca, a given contact was 36 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated."

> "Large portion" is false, it is children under 12

That's about 50 million Americans, a number I consider fairly large. https://www.statista.com/statistics/457786/number-of-childre...

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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2 Points 1. Vaccinated people still spread covid, Vaccination primary effect makes a person asymptomatic, this has been proven. 2. "Large portion" is false, it is children under 12, who have a lower chance of serious illness than a vaccinated person. That said if you as a parent feel that risk to do high then you as a parent can take measures to ensure you children only come in contact with vaccinated person, this ho…

> Vaccinated people still spread covid Vaccinated people still spread COVID, but they're less likely to. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/vaccinated-people... "When infected with the delta variant, a given contact was 65 percent less likely to test positive if the person from whom the exposure occurred was fully vaccinated with two doses of the Pfizer vaccine. With AstraZeneca, a given contact was 36 percen…

That's clearly not true given that the number of cases in highly vaccinated countries is as high or higher than before.

Firstly, NBC? They're not exactly going to give you a balanced view, are they. Anyway. The article is about an academic study. Those are near worthless: even theoretical studies with 100% external validity frequently come out too late to be informative. The real world data is what matters here. Perhaps someone who was literally just jabbed spreads it less, but if the protection lasts three months it's irrelevant and misleading to make a temporally unbounded claim "vaccinated people are less likely to spread COVID".

Re: Southwest operational meltdown as hundreds of flights canceled or delayed

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MCAS in itself doesn't seem to have been the problem. The fact that MCAS relied on a single sensor (no idea how that got certified in the first place) and that pilot were not aware of MCAS and how it worked were the problems. The latter was due to Boeing trying to avoid re-training and re-certification of air crew.

> pilot were not aware of MCAS and how it worked were the problems If the pilots followed runaway trim procedure, which is how the MCAS failure manifested, they would have been fine. In fact, that's what the other unmentioned crew of a 737MAX did that survived MCAS malfunction and landed without incident. Boeing issued an Emergency Airworthiness Directive about the procedure, which the Egyptian Air pilots didn't foll…

I thought there were some conditions in which manually adjusting trim became physically impossible (or at least extremely difficult).
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