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Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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I thought ignition had been achieved a long time ago. Is the article saying this is the first time for this particular lab to achieve ignition, or have I confused my fusion hype-terminology? I genuinely can't tell, as the article is written in Hype rather than English...

First time for an internal confinement system using lasers instead of a tokamak using magnetic confinement.

Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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Previously passim: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... (Edit: along with other, I now realise different, news from MIT.) (Including my submission of this same link, not discussed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28219462 , but the others are the same news.) Discussed mostly in: ~~ https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28462151 and:~~(edit, per above) https://news.ycombinator.com/item?i…

SPARC ≠ NIF

Ok, I hadn't realised the MIT one I said 'mostly discussed in' was different, but the others are this.

Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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Is this "plasma breakeven" or overall break-even?

Neither. From TFA:

"While the latest experiment still required more energy in than it got out, it is the first suspected to reach the crucial stage of ‘ignition’, which allowed considerably more energy to be produced than ever before, and paves the way for ‘break even’, where the energy in is matched by the energy out."

Here [1] is an excellent video by Sabine Hossenfelder about why you should not get too excited about this result.

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJ4W1g-6JiY

Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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> Fusion ignition is the point at which a nuclear fusion reaction becomes self-sustaining. This occurs when the energy being given off by the fusion reactions heats the fuel mass more rapidly than various loss mechanisms cool it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_ignition

Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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post #9

I thought ignition had been achieved a long time ago. Is the article saying this is the first time for this particular lab to achieve ignition, or have I confused my fusion hype-terminology? I genuinely can't tell, as the article is written in Hype rather than English...

First time for an internal confinement system using lasers instead of a tokamak using magnetic confinement.

Inertial confinement.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inertial_confinement_fusion

Re: Major nuclear fusion milestone reached as ‘ignition’ triggered in a lab

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Is this "plasma breakeven" or overall break-even?

What's important here is that they may have achieved ignition, that is making the fusion reaction self sustaining[0]. Once it becomes self sustaining one should be able to add more fuel to the pellet to get more energy out for the same input energy.

It's worth noting that NIF was not intended to generate power and is not representative of a potential power plant. The lasers on NIF are old and were chosen to have a lower efficiency for cost reasons. In addition, while NIF could generate much more energy, NIF isn't necessarily going to pursue this because the higher output energy may render the machine inoperable for too long.

Dealing with a high rate of explosions is one thing this class of fusion will need to solve before being able to generate power.

[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusion_ignition

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