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I think it's less about people being against the vaccine and more about people being against the mandates . One giant issue with them is that they completely ignore natural immunity, which over 30% of the country now has and studies show is drastically better than the vaccine, but without the dangerous side effects. If the mandates were rational, they would be centered around antibody tests.
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#472There's a cutthroat competition between the airlines so how can we be surprised that they have to "optimise" everything until fuckups like this start to happen? Consumers who are looking for someone to blame for this, should look in the mirror: those people who pick the cheapest picket at Expedia just by "sort by cheapest first", are the main culprits. Airline industry is in the pathetic state it is due to irrational…
Competition is the way capitalism works :-) . And I've seeing absolute monopolies doing far worse. Examples: the Cuban communications monopoly[^1] and their national airlines. That said, airlines are between the sword and a hard place, and I expect it's going to get much, much worse as climate regulation kicks in the next few months. If you want to fly to some remote country for tourism, do it as soon as possible. [^…
Given how cheap tickets today are, there so much that could be improved for the small and really non-decisive increases in prices (compared to the rest of average trip costs say hotel, taxi to/from airport, etc)! It's not that expensive to turn the modern day economy class experience - which is a truly an insult to human dignity - into something quite pleasant - in the structure of overall trip price it will be barely noticeable. But that won't happen because people pick entirely by PRICE alone. This is irrational and sad.
Compare with restaurants for example. There's also a ton of competition there, they go bust very frequently and have also very thin margins. But they don't try to compete ONLY in price, there is a great variety and customer experience is on average quite acceptable. Even closer point of comparison is hotels. There's nothing wrong going on with the hotels, while they are also a terribly competitive industry.
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#473There is currently a major outage at a major part of the infrastructure of our nation, and nobody believes anybody about why. The airline is saying it's something to do with weather, but somehow they're the only airline effected. Everybody online seems to the think it's some sort of labor strike, but the union denies this and nobody can find anywhere where people are planning this. And yet thousands of people are stu…
Seems like it’s a “wildcat strike” where some employees organize and strike silently without the consent or direction of their union.
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Banks are genetically incapable of doing anything useful in terms of technology. Their mainframe architecture was outdated 40 years ago! They will forever maintain their hacks and buggy software.
What do you mean by 'useful' here? Facebook goes down for half a day and everybody laughs. Take 'banks' down for the same amount of time and see what happens.
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> "99% survival rate" 1% dead means around 3.5 million dead, in the US alone. Do you consider that acceptable?
If the choice is between 3.5 million dead, and the rise of authoritarianism and censorship, then yes the former is much less tragic than the latter and therefore the more acceptable option. And that's before taking into account that the survival rate is quite a bit higher than 99%, so it won't be 3.5 million dead. And also before taking into account that the vast majority of the dead will be the very old, and people…
The absurdity of peoples' accusations of world-ending authoritarianism and censorship is baffling.
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Southwest Airlines, passengers claim different causes for cancellations https://www.khou.com/article/news/national/southwest-airline... > The nationwide cancellations came as the airline announced Monday that the company will now require employees to get the COVID-19 vaccinated by Dec. 8. > Some customers said they were told the cancellations are a direct result of the vaccine mandate. > “I asked them specifically 'i…
> They also said that air traffic control had a massive walkout because of the vaccine mandate This doesn't make any sense at all. If a vaccine-mandate induced ATC walkout was the cause, all air carriers would be disrupted, not just Southwest. I suspect this is someone pitching his own views about a situation he doesn't know the true cause of.
Jacksonville FL, for example is a major SW hub, and was completely shut down. Similar issues exist in two other major SW hubs - Houston and Phoenix.
Also, not all other airlines have mandated vaccinations. ...and those that have aren't in heavily anti-vax cities.
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I think it's less about people being against the vaccine and more about people being against the mandates . One giant issue with them is that they completely ignore natural immunity, which over 30% of the country now has and studies show is drastically better than the vaccine, but without the dangerous side effects. If the mandates were rational, they would be centered around antibody tests.
Just a small correction: natural immunity is not without side effects - it is just that the side effect price of the natural infection is already sunk cost for those who had the disease.
Of course COVID itself is dangerous. But once you have had it and survived it, the science shows that you have far better immunity than the vaccine delivers. The mandates do not take this into account. That is all I was trying to say.
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The most likely explanation is here [1]. Pilots (and apparently some air traffic controllers) are doing a sickout to protest vaccine mandates, presumably to make the powers that be understand just how difficult they can make things for the country if they proceed with intended mass firings. But the sickout is technically illegal, so nobody will acknowledge it. That is why you won't see a clear explanation of this inc…
Agree. Have family members in the pilot's union and in the air traffic control union. The White House thinks they can force unilateral changes to the union contracts. If the unions admitted to what was going on, the White House would have more legal authority to intervene more directly with the unions.
It's so strange. Do people really prefer to push an agenda here rather than understand the nuance and truth of what is going on?
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Seems like it’s a “wildcat strike” where some employees organize and strike silently without the consent or direction of their union.
The rumors are that it's due to the employee covid vaccine mandate.
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> that vaccine mandates are some global scheme by bill gates. While they’re all wrong, anti-vaxxers are a whole spectrum. I do think one big of nuance is important here though: there are a lot of strongly pro-vax people, like myself, who are strongly anti-mandate. The choice to take the vaccine is the correct choice. The other choice hurts not only yourself, but others. However there is no circumstance in which I’d s…
> However there is no circumstance in which I’d support the government requiring a medical procedure to be performed on someone without their consent. You do realize vaccine mandates aren’t new? The chicken pox vaccine has been mandates for all children attending public schools for over 20 years now. It has been enormously successful in eradicated what used to be a very common disease.
The child vaccine requirement analogy is flawed for at-least 3 reasons
1. We have all kinds of things we apply to children we do not to adults. They are children after all. For example kids are banned from smoking, but adults can.
2. It only applies if attend a public school, parents can opt out by sending their child to a religious school, private school, or home school.
3. You assume people that oppose government mandates for COVID support government mandates for children. Many of us do not, I think parents should vaccinate their children, I do not believe it is the role of government to mandate that no more than I believe it is the role of government to mandate the COVID vaccination
That is basically what it is comes down to is do you believe the government is your master, your parent, or king. Or do you believe in personal freedom and autonomy
It clear what choice you have made