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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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Whether we like it or not, the CCP is an integral part of today's China, both the good and the bad.

Not in Taiwan!

If you are completely, militantly and with your entire being opposed to it, it is in fact still a part of you.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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Why not? I don't think China is going to change it's functional political system just to prove a point to some rando on the internet is why.

It's people like you, and the predictable but classless act of keeping Wikimedia off WIPO (and similar ones) that gives CCP (and "China") bad rep all over world. Many would have liked a/one more counterbalance to US hegemony. From the latest polls though, it seems people would rather the US hegemony continues/strengthens rather than seeing CCP/"China" rises further. Such intangible acts will, sooner or later, have ta…

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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #245

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And yet Xinjiang makes up for 20 % of arrests in the entire country. https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/4/19/chinas-treatment-of...

Have you ever heard of the FBI crime statistics?

This just goes to prove that something about the politics in Xinjiang is not right.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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Why not? I don't think China is going to change it's functional political system just to prove a point to some rando on the internet is why.

It's people like you, and the predictable but classless act of keeping Wikimedia off WIPO (and similar ones) that gives CCP (and "China") bad rep all over world. Many would have liked a/one more counterbalance to US hegemony. From the latest polls though, it seems people would rather the US hegemony continues/strengthens rather than seeing CCP/"China" rises further. Such intangible acts will, sooner or later, have ta…

Latest polls from who? What polls are you talking about?

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

I wonder if Americans/Westerners are capable of acknowledging the things that their countries get wrong

You're shifting the goalposts...Has America or any western country blocked the wikimedia foundation from entering WIPO?

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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Of course Wikimedia won't take any action to appease this totalitarian nonsense. But, most for-profit companies do exactly that. When was the last time any Hollywood movie or mainstream entertainment mentioned Taiwanese conflict? When do you last remember seeing "Free Tibet"? Or any Tibet? Chinese film censors can apply billions of dollars of pressure, simply to change a single word. Who can withstand that? Wikimedia…

It's even crazier because when you are not american you realize that Hollywood is also the biggest soft propaganda agency for the USA. When have you seen a movie about the USSR winning the WW2? Or about the Guantanamo Bay?

Yes...Hollywood never makes movies portraying the US in a bad light. very insightful..

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #252

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> I wonder if Americans/Westerners are capable of acknowledging the things that their countries get wrong, or do wrong. Why would you wonder that? This forum is chock full of criticism of the American government by Americans. I’ve personally levied a huge amount of it myself on this very website. In fact, I genuinely cannot imagine how you could possibly ask such a question in good faith.

It’s a valid question, given that US perpetrators never meet justice and the society isn’t even trying to do anything about it.

Assuming that every American is incapable of questioning their government because entrenched systems protect the powerful is exactly the kind of thing OP was accusing others here of doing: crossing the line between criticizing the government and being anti the people.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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I think people expect the U.N. to be an advocate for their visions of the world. The U.N.'s primary purpose is simply to minimize the occurrence of war, especially nuclear war, not to spread any particular political ideology across the world such as “freedom and democracy”. In this particular case it allows China a conduit to achieve what it wants to without firing nuclear missiles.

It is in essence the triumph of words over violence, which is never a bad thing. It sucks if your words do not win, but it is better than your family dying and then not winning anyway.

Indeed, the purpose of te U.N. is not that conflicts be resolved in whatever direction some poster on Hacker News wishes it, but that they be resolved, or not resolved at all, without resorting to violence.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #235

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Nazis: https://www.wired.com/story/one-womans-mission-to-rewrite-na... Then there's this: > Most of Scottish Wikipedia Written By American in Mangled English https://www.vice.com/en/article/wxqy8x/most-of-scottish-wiki... Some examples of the writing here: https://twitter.com/NeerajKA/status/1298579510581960705 And finally, I remember some translated wikipedia language was mostly written by like 10 people and went ki…

The first is not an example of misinformation at all. The second isn't politically motivated, but simple vandalism.

Removing valorization of the Nazi cause implies that there was, well, valorization of the Nazi cause. Which is exactly

> actual disinformation in a concerted effort especially on politically charged topics

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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USSR dissolution and declaration of independence by ex Union states = Russia doesn't have the same legal claims at UN anymore. Whereas PRC has maintained legal claims over ROC at UN, it's still a domestic issues where interests on both sides of the strait matter. So yes, it really does work that way if one subscribes to the Westphalian system that west seems to advocate. Being a representative government has no barin…

The West doesn't uniformly advocate the Westphalian system; not even close. On the contrary, it's something that's brought up much more frequently by Russia these days.

Sure, West carves state of exception to interdict Westphalian system with liberal international order to justify intervening in others sovereignty but never the less the core scaffold underpinning current global system at UN is based off Westphalia. Which both PRC and Russia and others who wants west to mind their own business is vocal about maintaining. And really if you think LIO can carve exception for intervening in domestic affairs of others, than PRC can carve exception to rationalize intervene in TW (and SCS) anyway. PRC diplomacy and military modernization has been very thorough in preserving full justification to protect her interests under both systems, rule of law or rule of might, which really is how the world works anyway.
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