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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by jm547ster » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 9:54 AM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #101

jasode wrote: post #93

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>, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, I love how that innocent question reveals how a popular phrase for objects (i.e. "guitar tuner" instead of "violin tuner") alters public perception. It hides that fact that other stringed instruments like harps/violins do use outside aids (electronics, smartphone apps, or websites[1].) Some observations: - guitars are more common than…

I also heard that professional musicians - guitarists as well - can tune their instrument by ear. Pianos need regular tuning too, done by experts - they change tone depending on weather, temperature and humidity as well, so they have to be in a stable environment if at all possible. But these people can mostly tune them by ear, or they will have a tune fork for the base tone (A I believe) and work from there.

Yeah 95% or more will need a tuning fork at a minimum to give a frame of reference. It is fairly common for strings accompanied by a piano to ask for a note from the piano to start from (G for violin say)

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:06 AM UTC

sriram_malhar wrote: post #74

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

You are dissing a product that you didn't pay money for, and comparing it unfavorably to one that you did. How is that fair. There are metronome and tuner apps that are way more pleasant and functional than any hardware product, if you could shell out just a few bucks (< $10). You also have fewer batteries to manage.

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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by Cipater » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:08 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #98

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #87

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So Google can't do anything that's not a complete innovation?

They can, but they can't shove their own services in front of everybody else's in their search results.

If you just search "guitar tuner," it doesn't come up. You have to specifically search for "Google guitar tuner"

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by chinaev » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:13 AM UTC

I believe it's a bit of a disservice. People should develop a musical ear to tune their own instruments. Haven't been using tuners for about past five years. However my guitar does drift off a bit sometimes

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by wjnc » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:13 AM UTC

Kiro wrote: post #83

Clicking this thread I thought "at least this is something HN can't bash Google for" but of course I was wrong. You guys are really creative in your hate.

My initial thought was: "What a good way to dark pattern users into allowing Chrome to use the microphone". Tried it out and indeed using this on iOS 15 would give Chrome (seemingly permanent) microphone rights. So thanks, but no thanks. Thanks for the compliment of being creative in my hate.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by DoingIsLearning » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:29 AM UTC

spcebar wrote: post #16

Pretty soon Google will be mowing my lawn but still won't serve me RSS.

> still won't serve me RSS.

Well to be fair, they could probably SLAM your lawn and add it to street view data.

Whereas serving RSS has no clever telemetry/analytics for them to make any money out of (e.g. the death of Google Reader).

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by jobigoud » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:34 AM UTC

amelius wrote: post #98

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #87

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So Google can't do anything that's not a complete innovation?

They can, but they can't shove their own services in front of everybody else's in their search results.

What about the calculator or unit conversion?

I don't use Google myself but if this stuff is commodity I'm not sure why they couldn't shortcut the results. Users are still free to use something else if it adds value.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by schwartzworld » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:36 AM UTC

sriram_malhar wrote: post #74

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

You are dissing a product that you didn't pay money for, and comparing it unfavorably to one that you did. How is that fair. There are metronome and tuner apps that are way more pleasant and functional than any hardware product, if you could shell out just a few bucks (< $10). You also have fewer batteries to manage.

I don't think any app can compare favorably to a clipon tuner, if for no reason other than clip on tuners work in noisy rooms. Tuner apps are useful if you have no other options, but compared to a clip on or tuning pedal, no question what's better. You ever see a musician on stage using their phone to tune?

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by dkdbejwi383 » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:37 AM UTC

pgrulich wrote: post #97

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #96

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Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph? > g**mn ad platforms I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, n…

I think its goddamn ;)

Ah well I feel a bit daft now, not sure how that didn't cross my mind

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by dkdbejwi383 » Mon, Oct 11, 2021, 10:38 AM UTC

Cthulhu_ wrote: post #99

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #96

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Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph? > g**mn ad platforms I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, n…

I can't understand why people self-censor them; I mean you didn't figure out goddamn, but it's insulting to believe people can't parse what f*k or s*t refers to. Swearing is allowed on here, you won't get banned. And we're all adults here, we won't be shocked or offended by bad language. Alternatively, don't swear at all, there's plenty of other ways to express yourself. But don't do this shitty middle-ground bleepin…

My favourite kind of useless censorship is things like "st*pid cunt"