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Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by vr46 »

dehrmann wrote: post #58
stephen_g wrote: post #53

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, the Snark is good, I usually use that with my acoustic guitars. I also use a Polytune 3 which is the first thing in my signal chain for electric or bass. I've never had good results with tuning apps on my phone. Usually because of background noise - which is where the Snark shines, working through vibration!

Second on the Snark because it uses vibrations. It'll tune an unplugged electric guitar.

I found that my Snarks kept getting eaten by the dog so downvotes for making a dog-friendly tuner. I now have a strobe clip-on tuner that does ‘sweetened’ tuning and that aside, it’s much easier to read and apparently does not taste good to the dog.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by Kaibeezy »

sriram_malhar wrote: post #88
matheusmoreira wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> How is that fair. They chose not to charge money for it. They chose to ruin it with annoying ads nobody wants to see. It is absolutely fair.

OP is dissing one app, but making a generalised comment on all software apps in the tuner/metronome category. There is no shortage of well done apps that cost very little (most of them cheaper than the cheapest korg tuner) and packing in way more functionality. If OP's comment was something to the tune (heh) of "I tried a bunch of paid top-rated apps and I prefer my hardware tuner", I'd consider it a fair comparison.

I read it as dissing all free/crap/adware. Which is like dissing TV adverts or billboards or, I dunno, stickers on racing cars.

So, cough up for Netflix, or move to an area where people have expended effort to make sure billboards are not permitted, or, I dunno, go watch the ponies. It’s all out there, just got to pay one of the prices.

If you don’t want ads, you pay, or pick up one of dozens of perfectly serviceable used hardware tuners on eBay for 5 quid all day long.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by jasode »

anitil wrote: post #56
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

As a non-guitarist but one-time musician, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them, and I never thought to ask. (Obviously you might need an absolute reference if you don't have absolute pitch)

>, why are guitar tuners needed? Other stringed instruments seem to not need them,

I love how that innocent question reveals how a popular phrase for objects (i.e. "guitar tuner" instead of "violin tuner") alters public perception. It hides that fact that other stringed instruments like harps/violins do use outside aids (electronics, smartphone apps, or websites[1].)

Some observations:

- guitars are more common than violins, so the tuning object that's more common is ... the "guitar tuner"

- other stringed instrument musicians like harp and violin players also use so-called "guitar tuners" or metronomes that generates a reference pitch A440. Plenty of Youtube tutorials showing harpists/violinists how to use guitar tuners.

- formal vs informal cultural background of the instrument: the "orchestral" instruments like violin have a more formal structure (school ensembles) so you often end up in a situation where a student violinist has no idea how to tune their instrument because "my music teacher always did it for me". Likewise, piano players pay "piano tuners" to tune their instruments. On the other hand, guitars are more of a "folk" instrument (home playing, campfires, self-taught, etc) so guitar players have more a DIY attitude for tuning from the start.

[1] https://violinspiration.com/free-online-violin-tuner-with-mi...

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by jamespetercook »

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

One of the best purchases I ever made was about 8 years ago when I bought the Polytune iOS app for less than £5. It does one thing really well, has never tried to take more of my attention than it should with upgrades or ads, and every time I get a new phone it comes with me.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by Gravityloss »

stephen_g wrote: post #53
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Yeah, the Snark is good, I usually use that with my acoustic guitars. I also use a Polytune 3 which is the first thing in my signal chain for electric or bass. I've never had good results with tuning apps on my phone. Usually because of background noise - which is where the Snark shines, working through vibration!

I used to have the tuner pedal early in the chain, but recently I've found it more useful as last pedal. That way I can troubleshoot my signal chain without the amp being on / audience hearing noises. Might not work for everyone.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by dkdbejwi383 »

titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph?

> g**mn ad platforms

I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, nor does "Google"

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by pgrulich »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #96
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph? > g**mn ad platforms I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, n…

I think its goddamn ;)

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by amelius »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #87
amelius wrote: post #86

How is this not abuse of power to get into the guitar tuner market? I hope they get sued by the tuner companies. And before you respond, think how you would feel if your service was "front-run" by Google upon a user search.

So Google can't do anything that's not a complete innovation?

They can, but they can't shove their own services in front of everybody else's in their search results.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #96
titzer wrote: post #42

About 20 years ago I bought my first digital guitar tuner, a Korg, that is about the size of a deck of cards. It had a monochrome LCD screen that mimicked an analog dial with a needle that moved to indicate flat or sharp. Years passed. Guitar tuning apps became a thing. I downloaded a few over the years. Then the one (free) one I had started showing ads. Little by little, update by update, the ads became more annoyin…

Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph? > g**mn ad platforms I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, n…

I can't understand why people self-censor them; I mean you didn't figure out goddamn, but it's insulting to believe people can't parse what f*k or s*t refers to.

Swearing is allowed on here, you won't get banned. And we're all adults here, we won't be shocked or offended by bad language.

Alternatively, don't swear at all, there's plenty of other ways to express yourself. But don't do this shitty middle-ground bleeping things out bit, we're not stupid.

Re: Google adds a guitar tuner to Search

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

pgrulich wrote: post #97
dkdbejwi383 wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sorry if this is well off topic, but what is the word you've censored in your penultimate paragraph? > g**mn ad platforms I can't for the life of me figure it out. At first I thought you meant "gaming" because of pointless "gamificiation" (no, I don't want to collect a gem and get virtual rewards for "streaks" every time I tune my guitar to encourage me to engage with your app every day) but that doesn't quite fit, n…

I think its goddamn ;)

Maybe it's gee gosh golly darmn?
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