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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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Of course Wikimedia won't take any action to appease this totalitarian nonsense. But, most for-profit companies do exactly that. When was the last time any Hollywood movie or mainstream entertainment mentioned Taiwanese conflict? When do you last remember seeing "Free Tibet"? Or any Tibet? Chinese film censors can apply billions of dollars of pressure, simply to change a single word. Who can withstand that? Wikimedia…

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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #67

Of course Wikimedia won't take any action to appease this totalitarian nonsense. But, most for-profit companies do exactly that. When was the last time any Hollywood movie or mainstream entertainment mentioned Taiwanese conflict? When do you last remember seeing "Free Tibet"? Or any Tibet? Chinese film censors can apply billions of dollars of pressure, simply to change a single word. Who can withstand that? Wikimedia…

It's even crazier because when you are not american you realize that Hollywood is also the biggest soft propaganda agency for the USA. When have you seen a movie about the USSR winning the WW2? Or about the Guantanamo Bay?

Harold and Kumar Escape From Guantanamo Bay?

I'd love to see something similar from China or North Korea.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #191

Of course Wikimedia won't take any action to appease this totalitarian nonsense. But, most for-profit companies do exactly that. When was the last time any Hollywood movie or mainstream entertainment mentioned Taiwanese conflict? When do you last remember seeing "Free Tibet"? Or any Tibet? Chinese film censors can apply billions of dollars of pressure, simply to change a single word. Who can withstand that? Wikimedia…

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Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#194
post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference between being anti-CCP and anti-China.

Whether we like it or not, the CCP is an integral part of today's China, both the good and the bad.

Chinese culture is older and broader than CCP's China†. E.g. here in San Francisco our Chinatown is older than the state of California‡.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overseas_Chinese

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinatown,_San_Francisco

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

#195
post #67

Of course Wikimedia won't take any action to appease this totalitarian nonsense. But, most for-profit companies do exactly that. When was the last time any Hollywood movie or mainstream entertainment mentioned Taiwanese conflict? When do you last remember seeing "Free Tibet"? Or any Tibet? Chinese film censors can apply billions of dollars of pressure, simply to change a single word. Who can withstand that? Wikimedia…

It's even crazier because when you are not american you realize that Hollywood is also the biggest soft propaganda agency for the USA. When have you seen a movie about the USSR winning the WW2? Or about the Guantanamo Bay?

Fun Fact: In Action in the North Atlantic (1943), Humphrey Bogart plays a first officer aboard a Liberty Ship sending supplies to Murmansk. It has some pro-Soviet and even pro-Communist propaganda, with brave Soviet pilots escorting the ship and cheering people shouting "tovarisch!" to the crew.

They are even told "Tovarisch means 'comrade', which is a good thing!" Then all the ship's crew shout "comrade" back to the throngs of happy, well-fed, smiling Soviet citizens in WW2.

Other fun propaganda lines: "I believe in God, President Roosevelt, and the Brooklyn Dodgers!". They even feature radio recordings of Roosevelt set to patriotic music.

Despite being heavy handed and not having the best effects (you can see lines pulling the subs) it's a fun movie for Bogart fans and those interested in propaganda films. On Amazon Prime, tagged with "Cerebral, Joyous, Intense".

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Whether we like it or not, the CCP is an integral part of today's China, both the good and the bad.

Not in Taiwan!

Is Taiwan China though? (mostly non-rhetorical, honest question)

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

> I wonder if Americans/Westerners are capable of acknowledging the things that their countries get wrong, or do wrong.

Why would you wonder that? This forum is chock full of criticism of the American government by Americans. I’ve personally levied a huge amount of it myself on this very website. In fact, I genuinely cannot imagine how you could possibly ask such a question in good faith.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #158

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I've never heard of pre Korean war North Korea massacring tens of thousands of civilians like South Korea in the Jeju uprising, though obviously after the war human rights was often terrible. It's certainly possible it happened, but it doesn't change that the US assisted Rhee in killing leftists and then propped up his government for decades. >who was himself dissapeared by Kim Il Sung in 1949. 1957, supposedly for b…

> I've never heard of pre Korean war North Korea massacring tens of thousands of civilians like South Korea in the Jeju uprising I recommend learning about the history of North Korea. Those concentration camps existed before the war. Do you really think the forced collectivization policies and murder of "class enemies", monks, priests, landlords, university professors, members of the press, etc., that killed 30 milli…

>He was dissapeared in 1949. No one knows what happened to him, but there are some rumors that he was killed in 57.

Third from the left in 1955. He was Chairman of the Supreme Assembly until 57.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Tu-bong#/media/File:%E5%BA...

Beyond that, "I recommend learning about the history, then you can guess that terrible things were happening" isn't really changing anything I said, which is primarily about how the US backed it's own military dictatorship in South Korea.

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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post #104

(Disclaimer: I'm a franco-Canadian of mixed European descent.) This article doesn't give China a great image, sure. I can think of a million criticisms to levy against China. However, I feel like a lot of the comments aren't just criticizing China, they seem to be outright anti-China. I wonder if, in the grand scheme of things, Americans/Westerners might be feeling threatened by the shift in power. I wonder if Americ…

Does the CCP get much right?

Re: China blocks Wikimedia from entering World Intellectual Property Organization

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The theory is probably that the characters must be relatable and therefore American. Films about British actions in the war often have random American characters thrown in too. (I’m not sure that is unrealistic though) Perhaps another thing is that when the memory of the war was still fresh and people (at least in eg France) generally knew that the USSR had a big impact, McCarthyism was also at its height and there w…

In U-571 History was entirely rewritten as to suggest that it were U.S.A. soldiers, who captured the first German Enigma , whereas in actuality it were English soldiers that did so.

Anyone who watches a Hollywood movie and assumes it accurate is a fool. Movies are made to make money not educate.

It’s like the chase scene at the end of Argo. That never happened. They just got on the plane and left but if the movie was accurate that would be a horribly boring ending so they made up a better on.

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