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Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Also that Len was a Unix-style C++ whereas original Bitcoin was definitely a Windows programmer

That's a good data point. Although many people program for both OSs, it at least raises the question of why make a Windows app, if it's not your preferred platform?

Why did the person who published a whitepaper they hoped would change the world write an adjacent app for the most used consumer OS in the world?

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I think it's Nick Szabo. This is the article that convinced me: https://www.bitcoininsider.org/article/78686/i-designed-bitc...

Does anyone know what happened to Nick Szabo? He was very active on twitter (33,000 tweets, a bit crazy). He suddenly stopped tweeting from March 2nd.

Twitter isn't very functional for celebrities in the crypto space, due to the incessant spam. I bet he just got sick of it.

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It is 50/50 for me between Carmack and Torvalds. 2/1 if you add Satoshi.

Neither of them have demonstrated any significant knowledge of the extremely sophisticated, cutting edge crypto and anonymisation tech involved.

But Linux is the most secure OS! /s

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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It’s funny that people always guess that Satoshi is someone already famous as opposed to someone who is not known.

Just some lurker of that early mailing list, absorbing knowledge that eventually culminated into the code and paper. The number of unknown great programmers is a lot. What I think is interesting is that it was both code and a paper, not only code. So at least a grad student. And likely someone that starts many projects, because they left after only one year. Something else could have gotten more interesting.

Something else, like staying anonymous and/or alive?

Also, academia gauntlet graduates aren't the only ones that can write papers.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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I think it's Nick Szabo. This is the article that convinced me: https://www.bitcoininsider.org/article/78686/i-designed-bitc...

Nah, it was Paul Le Roux https://www.wired.com/story/was-bitcoin-created-by-this-inte...

The author of the Mastermind said he looked into this and found no evidence for it.

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My money is on Paul Le Roux.. most hackers are too uppity to write windows software. Le Roux was a pragmatist with a real practical need to move dirty money without banks.

Is there evidence that Le Roux used Bitcoin? Certainly he had a use for it. But the author of the Mastermind looked into this idea and didn't find any evidence for it

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No, there is no reason to believe that.

There is reason to disbelieve it. The text analyses that have been done point at Satoshi being an individual. Beyond that, if it were a group, they could have used someone as a spokesperson, but then you have a conspiracy of Satoshis, which is less possible. People, and especially geeks, like to talk. Someone would have tripped up by now, or moved bitcoin to fiat.

Military / intelligence agency would not have tripped up.

Their motivation could be promoting democracy (they did make Tor for this purpose after all) and/or money for black ops.

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Nah, it was Paul Le Roux https://www.wired.com/story/was-bitcoin-created-by-this-inte...

Seems a bit far-fetched that the guy creating Bitcoin was also building up a global criminal empire. I’m sure Paul is a very talented guy, but there are only so many hours in a day. The article’s author even admits it’s a stretch by the end of the article.

I don't actually think he's Satoshi, I just think it's a great story.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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My money is on Paul Le Roux.. most hackers are too uppity to write windows software. Le Roux was a pragmatist with a real practical need to move dirty money without banks.

Is there evidence that Le Roux used Bitcoin? Certainly he had a use for it. But the author of the Mastermind looked into this idea and didn't find any evidence for it

How could he? In 2012 Bitcoin was very niche and everyone was still very skeptical about it.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Satoshi came out of retirement in March 2014 to state that he was not Dorian Nakamoto, in the wake of a Newsweek article that falsely fingered the latter as Satoshi: https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/ I still think it was Hal Finney, who was in similar cypherpunk circles, created the first PoW system, received the first Bitcoin transaction, lived in the same town as Dorian Nakamoto for 10 years, was di…

Besides the points others have made here, iirc Finney explicitly denied it. (Same for Szabo.) He didn't have to -- a Glomar response would be perfectly reasonable whether or not you are Satoshi.

I'd take the explicit answer of someone not known to be a liar as the first piece of evidence to mention, not an "oh by the way" far down in the list.

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