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Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by simonh »

lostmsu wrote: post #104
ari__ wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most hackers I know write software for pretty much any other OS because of how much easier it is than writing software for Windows, not because they're uppity. Some may be ideological purists, sure, but I think you'd be very hard pressed to find a hacker that says the developer experience on Windows is easier/nicer/better than the developer experience on Linux or MacOS.

It is 50/50 for me between Carmack and Torvalds. 2/1 if you add Satoshi.

Neither of them have demonstrated any significant knowledge of the extremely sophisticated, cutting edge crypto and anonymisation tech involved.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by potiuper »

RealityVoid wrote: post #76
trixie_ wrote: post #37

My money is on Paul Le Roux.. most hackers are too uppity to write windows software. Le Roux was a pragmatist with a real practical need to move dirty money without banks.

Yes, but, really, the very pragmatical nature of Le Roux somehow makes me doubt he would have left the initial wallets untouched all these years. He is an interesting character, for sure, but does not seem the kind to not use a big lever at his disposal.

If any part of it was converted to any non-distributed security, then it would likey be confiscated along with interrogation to get the rest.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by aero-glide2 »

jjordan wrote: post #43
nostrademons wrote: post #31

Satoshi came out of retirement in March 2014 to state that he was not Dorian Nakamoto, in the wake of a Newsweek article that falsely fingered the latter as Satoshi: https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/ I still think it was Hal Finney, who was in similar cypherpunk circles, created the first PoW system, received the first Bitcoin transaction, lived in the same town as Dorian Nakamoto for 10 years, was di…

I think it's Nick Szabo. This is the article that convinced me: https://www.bitcoininsider.org/article/78686/i-designed-bitc...

Does anyone know what happened to Nick Szabo? He was very active on twitter (33,000 tweets, a bit crazy). He suddenly stopped tweeting from March 2nd.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by grey-area »

temp8964 wrote: post #73
panorama wrote: post #68

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is curious to me that it seems okay to defer to the author's assumption that Satoshi is a singular person, while at the same time denouncing how they refer to that person. You are okay with one uncertain assumption but not another. I think if you are willing to defer to the author here that benefit of the doubt should extend to the rest of their writing. However, if we assume that Satoshi is a singular person, how…

The norm is follow the gender assumption based on the pseudonym. If the person picked a female name, everyone would happily call the person “she”, as it should be. It has nothing to do with the real person’s gender.

It is not the norm no, as multiple people have pointed out to you. The norm is to use they when uncertain. You’ve been given plenty of examples but persist in your denial. I wonder why you want to police how other people speak and connect this with some bizarre right wing conspiracy (wokeness)?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by po1nt »

doopy1 wrote: post #45
jjordan wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's Nick Szabo. This is the article that convinced me: https://www.bitcoininsider.org/article/78686/i-designed-bitc...

Nah, it was Paul Le Roux https://www.wired.com/story/was-bitcoin-created-by-this-inte...

John McAfee believed he tracked Satoshi down by analysing scientific papers

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by MrPatan »

sneak wrote: post #3

While I didn't know Len, I've talked to a fair number of people who knew him well (including the person who put that ascii art portrait of him into the blockchain), and none of them have expressed strong agreement with this theory. All we know for sure about Satoshi is that s/he isn't Craig Wright.

I think Wright knew or strongly suspected who Satoshi was, and waited until he was dead to make his move.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by Gatsky »

josu wrote: post #8

This is the response from Len's widow, Meredith, the last time a similar article was posted. "It's a very well-researched and respectful article, but to the best of my knowledge, Len was not Satoshi. Worth reading for the history and the conclusions about mental health, though." https://twitter.com/maradydd/status/1364325186372304904?t=yY...

I see this as the only rational response despite what the truth may be - can you imagine what would happen if Meredith acknowledged that Len was Satoshi Nakamoto?

I think it is also possible Len did't tell his wife about Satoshi, or alternatively asked that she never reveal Satoshi's true identity.

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by Graffur »

reducesuffering wrote: post #52
nostrademons wrote: post #31

Satoshi came out of retirement in March 2014 to state that he was not Dorian Nakamoto, in the wake of a Newsweek article that falsely fingered the latter as Satoshi: https://techcrunch.com/2014/03/06/satoshi-dorian/ I still think it was Hal Finney, who was in similar cypherpunk circles, created the first PoW system, received the first Bitcoin transaction, lived in the same town as Dorian Nakamoto for 10 years, was di…

Hal Finney theory is too convoluted what with him talking to himself, a stark contrast in programming styles between Hal's organized manner and Satoshi's haphazard hacking, and no connection to the genesis block being a headline from UK/Europe and British lingo. A Nakamoto in town is just a common coincidence, there are 2,800 of them in the US.

Out of curiosity is there anything I can view to compare the two styles?

Re: Len Sassaman and Satoshi: A cypherpunk history

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Post by Graffur »

robbedpeter wrote: post #69
qez wrote: post #60

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No, there is no reason to believe that.

There is reason to disbelieve it. The text analyses that have been done point at Satoshi being an individual. Beyond that, if it were a group, they could have used someone as a spokesperson, but then you have a conspiracy of Satoshis, which is less possible. People, and especially geeks, like to talk. Someone would have tripped up by now, or moved bitcoin to fiat.

> People, and especially geeks, like to talk

Is this backed up by anything?

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