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O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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You have no way to check if this app is sending network requests back 'home'? That doesn't seem correct at all.

For such an intrusive application there are many ways to hide it. Not saying they do it, but I see no way to check it unless looking at the source code.

Looking at the source code is pretty useless unless you compile it yourself...

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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what about the next update that will randomly toggle some settings back? Well, you run the tool again. It even tells you to do that after making changes.

I acted like this for a long time, and my trust remained broken.

Assuming you mean trust in MS in general and not in what the OS does: broken trust isn't easy to fix, and this tool indeed doesn't do much in that regard, but it does fix some of the things which lead to the broken trust i.e. what the OS is doing.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Had the same thought, but upon investigation I don't see the incentive for the vendor to do something shady with it. They have a clear business model: Develop software for Windows that companies need. See their About page: https://www.oo-software.com/en/company Hence, it is clear what benefit they draw from releasing this software for free: Marketing. They are not in the business of brokering user data or mining bitc…

Windows will most likely consider this malware, since it is effectively piracy (removes activation checks) and it does mess with Windows Defender by disabling a bunch of phone-home stuff like malware sample submission. If you're already getting people to disable Windows Defender and/or make an exception for the exe, it's suddenly super easy to also embed some custom C&C into it, either for mass use (eg. using a Windo…

Windows won't treat this like malware, because, all the other similar products out there are not treated as malware either.

because it does not run as a service/persist, it will be undone by the next big windows update anyways.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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Its funny how Windows and Android, the two most widely used operating systems, are a privacy nightmare and basically spyware at this point. Remember you can install tools and ROMs that are privacy focussed but also realise only a minor percentage of the users bother or are aware of these. I wonder what the sales pitch would be to sell privacy focussed products to the average Joe.

Apple isn't any better - Apple gets the hash of every program you run on a Mac.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#147
> Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11

> Gold Microsoft Partner

Why would MS partner with a company that makes software to "bypass" their spyware?

Why would O&O partner with a company that has spyware in the OS, then proudly display the Gold MS partner badge on the same page?

Why is the source code obfuscated?

Think about it.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

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The simple fact that this even has to exist is hilarious.

I agree, but in part, it is how the Windows business model has changed.

Older versions of Windows were the product, and the customer was the end user

With New versions of consumer Windows, user data is the product, companies and advertisers are the customer, and end users are the data source.

Commercial/Server versions of Windows not so much.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#149

> Free antispy tool for Windows 10 and 11 > Gold Microsoft Partner Why would MS partner with a company that makes software to "bypass" their spyware? Why would O&O partner with a company that has spyware in the OS, then proudly display the Gold MS partner badge on the same page? Why is the source code obfuscated? Think about it.

The company makes more than just that tool, and particularly makes other W10 apps. The company itself is a gold partner, which, as nix23 posted -

Gold competency: To attain a competency, partner must:

    Pass required exams and skill validation.
    Meet performance requirements.
    Pay the annual fee.
$4,730

It seems less malevolent in that light

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#150
Debian and Linux are here to help:

https://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-dvd/

(The easiest Debian install experience might be to ignore the scary official documentation, simply burn that hybrid installer image raw to a USB stick or DVD+R, boot it on your target PC, and have an Ethernet cable handy until you boot your installed pristine Debian and then can enable install of "non-free" firmware. If you need help, I'd use Web search.)

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