Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

oo-software.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

71–80 of 212 posts

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#71

Post by breakfastduck »

marcodiego wrote: post #19
MauranKilom wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Had the same thought, but upon investigation I don't see the incentive for the vendor to do something shady with it. They have a clear business model: Develop software for Windows that companies need. See their About page: https://www.oo-software.com/en/company Hence, it is clear what benefit they draw from releasing this software for free: Marketing. They are not in the business of brokering user data or mining bitc…

> I don't see the incentive for the vendor to do something shady with it. Now. It is not a matter of having incentives. It is a matter that they can abuse and you simply have no way to check or control it.

You have no way to check if this app is sending network requests back 'home'? That doesn't seem correct at all.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#72

Post by jeffbee »

dannyw wrote: post #52
GordonS wrote: post #45

Microsoft has faced so much criticism for their approach to telemetry - I don't really understand why they don't at least provide the option to opt out of all telemetry. If they left it enabled by default, but provided an option to opt-out, realistically only a small segment of users would do so, and most of them would likely be power users who are already taking other steps to try to prevent telemetry being collecte…

Telemetry isn't just a tool for product managers, but it's also a goldmine for national security agencies (more than just the NSA; Bing is unblocked in China for a reason). Anti-government meme made with GIMP at a specific timestamp? One search through the telemetry logs to find who exported a file at that exact moment. Any data collection is also government surveillance unless proven otherwise.

Imagine believing that Windows telemetry contains such data.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#74

Post by makeworld »

lvass wrote: post #48
shmde wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://i.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ Or https://old.reddit.com/r/TronScript/ If you have trouble opening any reddit website on mobile change "www" with just the letter 'i' or 'old'. Once they don't allow these workarounds I am leaving reddit for good.

Or https://libredd.it/r/TronScript/

Or more lightweight: https://teddit.net/r/TronScript

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#75

Post by squareof »

entropie wrote: post #69
squizzel wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you throw out some example tools and ROMs?

I used that a few years ago and liked it: https://www.lineageos.org/

One can even take it a step further and use microg.org to get lineagos with optional google services. Has worked great for me last year or so.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#76

Post by tyrfing »

squizzel wrote: post #60
tumblewit wrote: post #53

Its funny how Windows and Android, the two most widely used operating systems, are a privacy nightmare and basically spyware at this point. Remember you can install tools and ROMs that are privacy focussed but also realise only a minor percentage of the users bother or are aware of these. I wonder what the sales pitch would be to sell privacy focussed products to the average Joe.

Can you throw out some example tools and ROMs?

Simplewall for Windows: https://www.henrypp.org/product/simplewall

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#77

Post by marcodiego »

breakfastduck wrote: post #71
marcodiego wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don't see the incentive for the vendor to do something shady with it. Now. It is not a matter of having incentives. It is a matter that they can abuse and you simply have no way to check or control it.

You have no way to check if this app is sending network requests back 'home'? That doesn't seem correct at all.

For such an intrusive application there are many ways to hide it. Not saying they do it, but I see no way to check it unless looking at the source code.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#78

Post by spacebear »

reayn wrote: post #65
ekianjo wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's no privacy on Apple with a closed source ecosystem and all the iCloud connectivity syncing your every move.

The “closed source ecosystem” is not nearly as restrictive as people make it out to be and is something that you willingly sign up for when buying apple products. Not sure where you got the idea of “icloud syncing your every move” but literally every icloud implementation can be disabled at your discretion. I for one only have my reminders, wallet, calendar and drive synced. Even with that said, none of this implies…

Your every move is quite literally transmitted to Apple. That's how Find My works.

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#79

Post by m0guz »

I don't trust these tools as any Windows Update can override the setting, or Microsoft can add a new "feature" and continue collecting telemetry data from that. For example; Disk Space Cleanup (cleanmgr.exe) tool has been trying to connect to internet since last year's Windows 20H2 updates. I use Binisoft's Windows Firewall Control (wfc)[0], set level to Moderate and check logs regularly. There is also simplewall tool [1] which has predefined Windows list to block.

[0] binisoft.org/wfc

[1] https://github.com/henrypp/simplewall

Re: O&O ShutUp10++ – Free anti-spy tool for Windows 10, 11

#80

Post by Fnoord »

tumblewit wrote: post #53

Its funny how Windows and Android, the two most widely used operating systems, are a privacy nightmare and basically spyware at this point. Remember you can install tools and ROMs that are privacy focussed but also realise only a minor percentage of the users bother or are aware of these. I wonder what the sales pitch would be to sell privacy focussed products to the average Joe.

I don't think it is funny, nor coincidence. A lot of people are poor and have to sell themselves out with privacy. They cannot afford a premium brand like Apple.
Post reply on HN