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Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.

Safari has extensions. Apple has just made them incredibly difficult to find by burying them in the Mac App Store.

And by requiring an Apple Developer Account and associated tooling, they've made them just hard enough to develop that the long tail won't bother porting.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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If possible (a.k.a if Apple allows this) please integrate Keychain with this browser. I am not sure if there are many people like me, but I am using Keychain and it is the reason why I default to Safari and using any other browser it takes effort that I am doing, but I really wish Keychain could be integrated in other browsers too. LE: It seems they already support this as stated in their FAQ/"How does Orion store my…

It's a good idea to move to a cross-platform password manager, so that your passwords don't result in OS vendor lock-in.

I still run macOS on desktop but use a patched bitwarden_rs to store my passwords. I can also use it from Android and Linux.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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post #142
post #44

If possible (a.k.a if Apple allows this) please integrate Keychain with this browser. I am not sure if there are many people like me, but I am using Keychain and it is the reason why I default to Safari and using any other browser it takes effort that I am doing, but I really wish Keychain could be integrated in other browsers too. LE: It seems they already support this as stated in their FAQ/"How does Orion store my…

It's a good idea to move to a cross-platform password manager, so that your passwords don't result in OS vendor lock-in. I still run macOS on desktop but use a patched bitwarden_rs to store my passwords. I can also use it from Android and Linux.

Yeah horses for courses I guess. I always try to use the cross-platform solution whenever I can but not everyone seems to care about that and are seemingly fine about being locked in.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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I don't see any mention of developer tools, but in case anyone working on this is here, that's something that would probably be interesting to the HN crowd. Since the home page has a screenshot of HN, I'm guessing devs are the target market.

In my experience most browsers based on these major engines, like Vivaldi, Edge or whatever have broken dev tools. You'd be better using Safari for that imo.

Brave working perfectly fine here. Do you work for Apple? :D I've never heard anyone defend Safari's dev tools over Chrom(e/ium)'s before.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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post #7

The one thing that is lacking from Safari is extensions. If this does what I believe then it will be my main browser. Safari adblocking sucks atm.

Safari has extensions. Apple has just made them incredibly difficult to find by burying them in the Mac App Store.

"Has" yes. Last time I checked the selection was horrible and most of the seemingly good ones were paid. Have things changed in the past 6-12 months?

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've (M1/16GB MBA) got my usual 40+ tabs open and Brave is only using 536MB of memory. It's rock solid. I use G-Suite/Workplace and everything has been buttery smooth since I turned off Brave's crypto/BAT notifications. I agree that keychain is the only reason I still use Safari for some things (and perfect sync with iPhone), but I lean more on 1Password these days.

Are you sure you're not just looking at the main process?

Haha yeah. M1 w/ 16 GB here as well. I just counted and I have 59 tabs open. According to Brave's task manager the GPU process alone is at 2.4 GB followed by two Gitlab tabs grouped to 894 MB (wow, killing those) and then all the others averaging maybe 90 MB. Looking at Activity Monitor I'd eyeball the sum of the processes to be maybe 4 GB.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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post #44

If possible (a.k.a if Apple allows this) please integrate Keychain with this browser. I am not sure if there are many people like me, but I am using Keychain and it is the reason why I default to Safari and using any other browser it takes effort that I am doing, but I really wish Keychain could be integrated in other browsers too. LE: It seems they already support this as stated in their FAQ/"How does Orion store my…

I moved from Safari to Firefox because if you're not using iCloud Keychain, the passwords Safari saves are not backed up properly with Time Machine: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24626562 So I hope that, unlike Safari, Orion uses the Login rather than the Local Items keychain.

I am not sure your threat model, but Apple has no keys to decrypt iCloud Keychain entries.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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post #142
post #44

If possible (a.k.a if Apple allows this) please integrate Keychain with this browser. I am not sure if there are many people like me, but I am using Keychain and it is the reason why I default to Safari and using any other browser it takes effort that I am doing, but I really wish Keychain could be integrated in other browsers too. LE: It seems they already support this as stated in their FAQ/"How does Orion store my…

It's a good idea to move to a cross-platform password manager, so that your passwords don't result in OS vendor lock-in. I still run macOS on desktop but use a patched bitwarden_rs to store my passwords. I can also use it from Android and Linux.

At least on Monterey, the macOS passwords system preference has import and export password set options built-in. The format is an unencrypted CSV file.

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is Raymond Hill not working on uBlock anymore? Why is there uBlock and uBlock Origin?

He stopped working on it and gave it away to someone else, who promptly used it to raise "donations". This led him to decide to fork back the project under the name "uBlock Origin".

Why's donations in quotes?

Re: Orion is a new WebKit-based browser for Mac

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post #143
post #142

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a good idea to move to a cross-platform password manager, so that your passwords don't result in OS vendor lock-in. I still run macOS on desktop but use a patched bitwarden_rs to store my passwords. I can also use it from Android and Linux.

Yeah horses for courses I guess. I always try to use the cross-platform solution whenever I can but not everyone seems to care about that and are seemingly fine about being locked in.

I mean, it's not really "locked-in". You can export your passwords from Keychain easily enough (as CSV, if you'd like).
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