> The biggest lesson I took away from the whole ordeal is that if you believe something is the right path, it's worth speaking up about it, even if it's controversial. Unless you work at Coinbase, right?
Why do people think work is an appropriate place for political activism?
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#202Just want to say how ridiculous this is from a European perspective. I know nothing better than for any company to be mission focused. You go to work to do work. And you do so with a degree of neutrality, as you can't pick your colleagues, yet still need to cooperate with them. This doesn't mean you can't say anything at all, it means you shouldn't be overly divisive or confrontational. A company isn't your personal…
Just know that there is a large majority of Americans that hold this view but don't speak up due to potential of being cancelled or fired.
It shows the massive divide between the Twitter world and the real world. Nobody wants real life Twitter.
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#203Just want to say how ridiculous this is from a European perspective. I know nothing better than for any company to be mission focused. You go to work to do work. And you do so with a degree of neutrality, as you can't pick your colleagues, yet still need to cooperate with them. This doesn't mean you can't say anything at all, it means you shouldn't be overly divisive or confrontational. A company isn't your personal…
As a European living and working in the US: your comparison is very shortsighted. European countries literally have no legal concept of at-will employment. They have strong social nets that make quitting your job much easier, and more prevalent unions that fight to improve working conditions (all of these things are, gasp, political! incidentally) By comparison employment in the US is messed up enough that if you lea…
So I recently quit a FAANG and they sent me a COBRA notice with the cost of their insurance benefit. You can get great FAANG insurance for about $10k a year, which is peanuts for a Silicon Valley engineer. We need to dispel the myth that Silicon Valley engineers are working for health insurance.
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#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
COIN has lost 25% since IPO (in that time, GOOG, FB, MSFT, AAPL, HOOD are up, PP is even, and SQ is down marginally), and their offers aren't particularly better than , so it doesn't seem like this is true. Like, even if you think crypto is going to be super relevant, there's tons of other cryto startups. Coinbase has or had first mover advantage, but that's no longer an enormous advantage.
If you got stock for free because you work for coinbase, does it matter much it went down? I mean it's still around $250 each, that quickly adds up. > their offers aren't particularly better than citation needed, I mean 'anywhere' is a big space. I'm seeing north of $100K on a quick google, that's a lot more than most places pay. Or are you speaking from a privileged, SF-blinkered position?
That's where the "isn't better than other offers" part comes in. If you get 40K in stock from Coinbase or 40K in stock from Robinhood, and one went up and one didn't...
> citation needed, I mean 'anywhere' is a big space. I'm seeing north of $100K on a quick google, that's a lot more than most places pay.
I'm speaking as compared to the list of stock tickers I listed.
> Or are you speaking from a privileged, SF-blinkered position?
If we're at the point where Coinbase can't hire "privileged" employees and is having to settle for ones who don't have other options, I think that makes my case for me.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
We might as well call it what it is: troublemakers. People that are so politically activist at work that they dis-proportionally impact the business. By sowing division, distracting from the work, spoiling morale. And sometimes worse, like stealing data or airing dirty laundry publicly. I'm not going to touch the morality of it, I'm merely painting the picture of what it is. There's more companies where this is an is…
I can't help but feel like you've made your mind up and aren't interested in listening to any other perspective. Your reply addresses absolutely nothing in the post it's replying to. Perhaps we just leave the conversation here, I don't see it going anywhere fruitful. I wish you all the best.
The thing you're talking about, worker conditions, is not what the article is about. It's not a different perspective, it's an entirely different topic.
But anyway, have a good day regardless.
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Not to be mean, but I'd say that Brian Armstrong took the actions he did to weed out people like you from working at Coinbase.
"People like [the OP]" are in my experience consistently better at what they do than the sort of folks which Coinbase is now apparently soliciting.
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Sorry, I lack the privilege to read that article.
Here you go: http://archive.today/EMPL2 Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community. Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.
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Which euro country? Seems like you haven’t experienced the workplace woke-ism yet. Don’t worry, though. It will be soon in every euro country that isn’t already. After all —- globohomo wokeness is America’s biggest export. Good on Coinbase and I’ll vehemently defend them for it after experiencing it first hand.
What is “globohomo wokeness”?