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Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by Jensson »

ABeeSea wrote: post #174
asabjorn wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you by complicity [1] mean the critical social justice concept that all white (or people that believe in classical liberal culture) people are complicit in the maintenance and harms of systemic racism (stopping a perfect equity utopia) and white supremacy (continuation of individualistic western liberalism, instead of collectivist group-based critical social justice)? [1] https://newdiscourses.com/tftw-complicity/…

What is “classical white culture?” I’m not aware of any global culture associated with skin color. But feel free to enlighten me.

USA has this strange notion where they group people by skin color and call that race and assume same skin color has same culture.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by femiagbabiaka »

fleddr wrote: post #71

Just want to say how ridiculous this is from a European perspective. I know nothing better than for any company to be mission focused. You go to work to do work. And you do so with a degree of neutrality, as you can't pick your colleagues, yet still need to cooperate with them. This doesn't mean you can't say anything at all, it means you shouldn't be overly divisive or confrontational. A company isn't your personal…

> I work in a tech hub in Europe that has 80 nationalities, people from all walks of life. Any ethnicity, sex, gender, sexuality, religion and political conviction you can think of and we all get along just fine with zero tensions.

I’m sure this statement is not true, (racism and sexism don’t exist in Europe now?) but even supposing it is, there are very few companies in the U.S. that are this diverse. And the state of our labor rights in comparison to the EU is atrocious. In the first place, at-will employment, a right wing policy, is to be blamed for how easy it is to fire people for political reasons.

It’s easy to strawman an anonymous group of “aggressive identity-based political activists”, much more difficult to reckon with the real differences in the political economy of the EU vs the U.S.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by woodruffw »

xibalba wrote: post #117
emsy wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do people think work is an appropriate place for political activism?

Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism, and it indoctrinates students with the belief that everything everywhere is politics, always. This mentality has infected "liberal" intellectualism outside the academy, to the point where it is, essentially, the "culture" of much of the Left in the U.S.

> Because liberal arts higher education has been completely usurped by Postmodernism and Marxism

Having actually gone through an undergraduate philosophy program in the United States: Marx is a blip. He's barely taught in analytical programs, which are (overwhelmingly) the dominant discipline in American colleges. Postmodernism isn't even mentioned. I spent more time reading Nozick and other politically right-of-center philosophers than I did reading anything resembling left philosophy.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by asabjorn »

justinsaccount wrote: post #3

> The biggest lesson I took away from the whole ordeal is that if you believe something is the right path, it's worth speaking up about it, even if it's controversial. Unless you work at Coinbase, right?

You are still free to speak up about anything relating to work responsibilities. However, if your goal was to do activism to institutionalize and enforce critical social justice (CSJ) dogma into the company you are correct that is not allowed.

Coinbase certainly made itself more viewpoint inclusive by making it impossible to act within the company as a CSJ procelyte is required to do. An CSJ procelyte is expected to try to institutionalize the faith by enforcing the Diversity (hiring activists of all identities - a black conservative is not diverse), inclusion (censorship of people resisting CSJ DEI initiatives), and Equity (redistribution of outcomes based upon identities and adherence to CSJ) agenda.

I work at a company that has heavily institutionalized CSJ, and CSJ procelytization is quite distracting from our core mission and is actively creating a non-inclusive culture to other viewpoints&faiths. Almost every day I get emails about this faith, there are almost daily meetings (services) about it, almost every company-wide meeting spends time preaching about it, every facet of the buerocracy enforce CSJ dogma, and we are demoralizing the workforce by hiring as well as promoting based upon DEI principles instead of trying to achieve meritocracy.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by afavour »

fleddr wrote: post #178
afavour wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My point is that positions like Brian's require there to be a clear and bright line between "political" and "not political". I think it's at least slightly easier to draw that line in European workplaces where the nature of employment is not as politically fraught. Just to take two of your examples: feminism and trans rights. Both have healthcare implications. Your employer controls your healthcare. Should the health…

We might as well call it what it is: troublemakers. People that are so politically activist at work that they dis-proportionally impact the business. By sowing division, distracting from the work, spoiling morale. And sometimes worse, like stealing data or airing dirty laundry publicly. I'm not going to touch the morality of it, I'm merely painting the picture of what it is. There's more companies where this is an is…

I can't help but feel like you've made your mind up and aren't interested in listening to any other perspective. Your reply addresses absolutely nothing in the post it's replying to. Perhaps we just leave the conversation here, I don't see it going anywhere fruitful. I wish you all the best.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by Cthulhu_ »

joshuamorton wrote: post #41
fshbbdssbbgdd wrote: post #6

I think the reality is that Coinbase is so obviously a rocketship that the CEO could say anything and they’d have no trouble with recruitment or retention. Existing employees have stock grants worth millions, and new employees are getting great offers. The people who will take these jobs are generally going to be bullish on crypto. If you expect crypto to become a bigger piece of the economy in the future, it would b…

COIN has lost 25% since IPO (in that time, GOOG, FB, MSFT, AAPL, HOOD are up, PP is even, and SQ is down marginally), and their offers aren't particularly better than , so it doesn't seem like this is true. Like, even if you think crypto is going to be super relevant, there's tons of other cryto startups. Coinbase has or had first mover advantage, but that's no longer an enormous advantage.

If you got stock for free because you work for coinbase, does it matter much it went down? I mean it's still around $250 each, that quickly adds up.

> their offers aren't particularly better than

citation needed, I mean 'anywhere' is a big space. I'm seeing north of $100K on a quick google, that's a lot more than most places pay. Or are you speaking from a privileged, SF-blinkered position?

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by finiteseries »

fleddr wrote: post #179
saurik wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> If you do have something political to say, a grave social justice error in the company's policy for example, you can still be reasonable about it. To mention it respectfully and proportional to the issue, rather than going nuclear. > Any ethnicity, sex, gender, sexuality, religion and political conviction you can think of and we all get along just fine with zero tensions. This really sounds like you are blaming the…

Sorry, I lack the privilege to read that article.

Here you go:

http://archive.today/EMPL2

Be kind. Don't be snarky. Have curious conversation; don't cross-examine. Please don't fulminate. Please don't sneer, including at the rest of the community.

Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by dragonwriter »

Jensson wrote: post #181
ABeeSea wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is “classical white culture?” I’m not aware of any global culture associated with skin color. But feel free to enlighten me.

USA has this strange notion where they group people by skin color and call that race and assume same skin color has same culture.

> USA has this strange notion where they group people by skin color and call that race

No, we don’t. (There's two races where one of the common, not-generally-offensive names for each refers to a color, but people identified and identifying with each of those races have a wide range of skin colors, overlapping with those of most other races in both cases.)

> and assume same skin color has same culture.

No, we generally don’t.

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by zapita »

fourstar wrote: post #153
fleddr wrote: post #71

Just want to say how ridiculous this is from a European perspective. I know nothing better than for any company to be mission focused. You go to work to do work. And you do so with a degree of neutrality, as you can't pick your colleagues, yet still need to cooperate with them. This doesn't mean you can't say anything at all, it means you shouldn't be overly divisive or confrontational. A company isn't your personal…

Which euro country? Seems like you haven’t experienced the workplace woke-ism yet. Don’t worry, though. It will be soon in every euro country that isn’t already. After all —- globohomo wokeness is America’s biggest export. Good on Coinbase and I’ll vehemently defend them for it after experiencing it first hand.

What is “globohomo wokeness”?

Re: 1 Year of Coinbase as a mission focused company

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Post by mikeklaas »

sagichmal wrote: post #154
sergiotapia wrote: post #4

"We have a much more aligned company now, where we can focus on getting work done toward our mission. And it has allowed us to hire some of the best talent from organizations where employees are fed up with politics, infighting, and distraction." BIG takeaway. The people on your team attract similar kinds of people to your team. Good for Coinbase. Lots of good lessons here.

They lost almost half of their engineering team. Product development has almost stalled. I dunno, man.

Do you have a source for that?
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