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Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I cashed out and stopped working around 37. It has been a very difficult transition for me. I have had 3 or 4 years of borderline depression despite having more money than god :-) The loss of structure, status, social interaction, goals hits hard. The problem is, I don’t want a job and probably lack the motivation to do another business. I need to build hobbies and friends outside of a work context, I know. My advice…

If you have more money than god then why not start a non-profit of some sort? Between being a millionaire and still being an organization leader, there's plenty of status there. And you get to call yourself a philanthropist which is pretty flashy.

It's work, sure, but all you really have to do is hire the right person to lead the effort (and build a team under them) while you call the bigger shots. It only requires as much energy as you want to put in.

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post #136

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By my observation people who have not experienced extended periods of free time are the ones who have this reaction, and the people that have actually experienced it are the ones saying it's easy to become bored or even depressed. I think it's just one of those things that's hard to imagine until you actually experience it.

I disagree. I've worked taken two extended periods off of work (6 months and 18+ months). I was busy most of the time because I have a life outside of work.

Alternatively, I've taken a year+ off multiple times in my life for "funemployement" and I was quite antsy and bored and restless but also lacked motivation to do much. I think it depends on the person.

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Is it funny to anyone else how it seems like retired software engineers tend to be drawn to either carpentry or farming?

Haha, I was into carpentry from a young adult age. I'm not retired but it's still a hobby. It's just nice to work with your hands and build something physical after staring at a screen all day.

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I was always taking things apart as a kid (usually breaking them), started with computers my jr year in high school, and won the U of L ACM programming contest that year. I have always loved programming. I billed Ford 300 hours one month when I was 25 and working as a contractor, and that was time actually working. But even though I have always worked long hours, it was always more like play than work and I never felt burned out.

I ran a web business from age 38-45 with a co-founder and we worked our asses off 7 days a week, 10-12 hours a day. Still, I never got burned out, rarely took any time off (single, no kids). He bought me out after 7 years because I wanted to do a backup thing and he wanted to expand the web business. Made a good hunk of cash from that over the 5 year buyout.

I wrote a Prime minicomputer emulator and licensed it for around 12 years. One customer paid for my rather frugal (by choice, not necessity) lifestyle.

At 49 I released the first version of HashBackup and have continued that the last 12 years. I'm not taking money for it because so far, I haven't needed it, and dealing with money is a pain.

My personal life was practically non-existent in my 20's because I worked so much (loved it too), but looking back I'm glad that I sacrified personal life for career. It has always given me the option of turning down work I wasn't interested in and leaving jobs I was no longer interested in. I never had to take a job for money. Having a spouse and kids obviously makes that a lot harder.

I feel like there are always trade-offs in life. I have a $22/mo cell plan from puretalkusa.com, am grandfathered in on the "Everyday Low Price" internet plan from Time Warner (now Spectrum) that originally was a whopping 3Mbit down/1Mbit up for $15/mo, but over time is now 20Mbit down/1.2Mbit up for $27/mo. I was recently rear-ended and had to buy a car, but bought a 2018 Acura RDX with 30K miles for $26K instead of a new one for $46K. I also bought a completely rebuilt 1918 mahogany Steinway B a couple of years ago, so I'm not shy about spending money, but it's also fun to beat corporations at their pricing games. I buy clothes at Goodwill most of the time, because I hate shopping and if I buy something at GW I don't like, I just give it back and don't feel bad that I spent $75 on a shirt that I don't like when I get home. I buy all my Macs and phones on eBay for usually half price.

In a lot of cases, people have choices in life, but they sometimes don't spend much time thinking about how their choices affect their life. I see people in brand new trucks that cost $60K+ and it makes me wonder why anyone would do that.

If a person wastes money over a lifetime, I think they will have a lot more financial struggles and maybe never have the option to retire early. I've always been frugal because having money gives me choices and options.

A key thing to being happy in retirement IMO is to take care of yourself and have at least a few things you are passionate about, whether it's side projects, music, sports, poker night, or whatever. I try to make the most of each day, even if I'm not getting paid for it.

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No it doesn’t worry me. I don’t even need my retirement money right now, I have the money from the medical marijuana business for day to day expenses. Bitcoin follows a four year cycle caused by the halving dates and my money was put in near this cycle’s low. It would have to fall an incredible amount for me to even be close to what I put in. The real gutsy move was putting it in back then. But every sign I knew poin…

Legit question: what's going to happen when bitcoin is no longer produced? Like, there's a finite amount of bitcoin that will ever be mined, and after that, why would anyone keep running their mining operations? How do transactions get verified after that? Doesn't the entire viability of bitcoin as a currency depend on miners mining?

Miners get the transaction fee in addition to a mining reward. Once the last coin is mined, the reward goes away but the transaction fee remains

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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Yes. A friend was homeschooling her kids in the US, and then her husband got an assignment in Germany for about a year. She took the kids and joined her husband in Germany for a few months. The rules were all different, and much stricter in Germany. I remember she was thinking of trying to continue to home school there, and keep her kids inside during school hours, and try to slide under the radar. I don't remember i…

If I may say so, your friend isn't the brightest candle on the cake if she didn't research the rules before and then tried to dodge them. I bet she would have cried foul murder if CPS came to her house and threatened to take away her kids...

I double checked, and my friend successfully got away with homeschooling her kids in Germany. This was over five years ago. She thinks that maybe because she's American, they didn't follow up as much as they would have with a German citizen. She also told me today that she was there for almost a year, not a few months.

I wouldn't suggest anyone else try this.

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Dad retired in his mid 30s. It went really well for him for about 30 years, and then he started to decline into depression. I don't think it was directly related to being retired. He built a barbecue out of cinder blocks, then rebuilt it out of bricks. He learned to knot in order to make hammocks. He took up painting with acrylics -- I wouldn't say he ever became good at it, but he liked it and that's the point. The…

Minus the depression, you have basically described my dream life. Retire early, pursue projects and relationships I find rewarding, take care of my family. I turn 30 in 10 days... not sure I'll be retiring any time soon. But still, a man can dream.

I hope your dad feels better soon.

Re: Ask HN: People who cashed out early and stopped working: What is your life like?

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I quit tech, moved to a rural area, and bought some farmland at the beginning of the year. got a couple different jobs to learn how to do things. first building polebarns and then framing houses. got to journeyman in framing last month and quit. finishing up my first barn and now i am getting ready to build a greenhouse over the winter. been preparing the soil. will be ready for planting next year. technically i didn…

funny reading stories like this as someone who grew up on a farm and knows how much hard work it is, I would drive tractors, feed cows, pull in hay, silage etc on evenings and weekends and even before school when required, from around age 11... I studied maths/sci and went into computing, and am now again coming full circle with vertical farming and controlled environments! Traditional farming is so much better for t…

>vertical farming and controlled environments!

Curious what this involves for you. Are you in an urban, rural, exurb, etc area? What are you growing?

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