I often claim software is a new form of literacy. And I see no-code as the equivalent of cutting up all the frames from marvel comics and tippexing out the speech bubbles, then handing them to some illiterate and saying "hey, you can write your own story now !" It's not how we (as a society) need to handle this. Edit: i.e. that is not empowering the illiterate.
No-code in manufacturing: automation without programming
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#22Is no-code the new trend because full automation with AI failed? I wonder if we're trying to realise what jobs actually require skilled labour.
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#23As someone who does manufacturing automation for a living, I don't think this person has any experience in a manufacturing environment. Coding is really not a limiting factor in manufacturing automation. For decades everything has been built around being controlled by first relay logic and then PLCs, which implement multiple languages like ladder-logic which are basically already drag and drop. Most sensors are simpl…
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#25The site is unusable/unreadable on mobile. So many ads.
Re: No-code in manufacturing: automation without programming
#26As someone who does manufacturing automation for a living, I don't think this person has any experience in a manufacturing environment. Coding is really not a limiting factor in manufacturing automation. For decades everything has been built around being controlled by first relay logic and then PLCs, which implement multiple languages like ladder-logic which are basically already drag and drop. Most sensors are simpl…
In my experience it is. Sure there are people who can go in and hack some simple code, but they typically know nothing about the clean code style that you need to make millions of lines manageable. They do okay with 500 lines programs where it isn't hard to know the whole, but don't put them on anything more complex
Re: No-code in manufacturing: automation without programming
#27As someone who does manufacturing automation for a living, I don't think this person has any experience in a manufacturing environment. Coding is really not a limiting factor in manufacturing automation. For decades everything has been built around being controlled by first relay logic and then PLCs, which implement multiple languages like ladder-logic which are basically already drag and drop. Most sensors are simpl…
Re: No-code in manufacturing: automation without programming
#28As someone who does manufacturing automation for a living, I don't think this person has any experience in a manufacturing environment. Coding is really not a limiting factor in manufacturing automation. For decades everything has been built around being controlled by first relay logic and then PLCs, which implement multiple languages like ladder-logic which are basically already drag and drop. Most sensors are simpl…
I worked in this sort of space for awhile. You got it in your last paragraph. Downtime costs money. Not only does downtime cost money, service calls do too. You get a guy who knows exactly how to fix it out on site and he shows up and has the wrong part and he costs 200 bucks an hour. You can burn 4 hours just waiting for a part. We were having a lot of good luck adding some sensors, remote diagnostic, and pre-diagno…
We want the money back guarantee because we think the specter of you making no money will motivate you not to fuck us over. Your guarantees mean next to nothing, and the manpower involved in getting and cashing that check might eat most of it up anyway.
Re: No-code in manufacturing: automation without programming
#29As someone who does manufacturing automation for a living, I don't think this person has any experience in a manufacturing environment. Coding is really not a limiting factor in manufacturing automation. For decades everything has been built around being controlled by first relay logic and then PLCs, which implement multiple languages like ladder-logic which are basically already drag and drop. Most sensors are simpl…
> generally coding skill is not particularly lacking In my experience it is. Sure there are people who can go in and hack some simple code, but they typically know nothing about the clean code style that you need to make millions of lines manageable. They do okay with 500 lines programs where it isn't hard to know the whole, but don't put them on anything more complex
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#30> So, what is no-code? No-code development is perfect for engineers who have zero programming knowledge. It’s based on a visual drag-and-drop user interface, with no hand coding required to reach the end goal. It empowers workers to design solutions they need to overcome the challenges they face every day—without writing a single line of code. In 2019, 84% of enterprises across the US, UK, Canada and Australia had al…
1. We need a richer library of standardized DSLs for various real-world environments, where the power of a full PL is perhaps too dangerous without excessive training.
2. The method of specifying algorithms in plain text (i.e. "code") is not intuitive or unapproachable for large numbers of people who could otherwise benefit greatly from the ability to "program" the tools they use.