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Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#71

Safari is nowadays getting ~$15,000,000,000 per year with a Google search deal. Meanwhile Mozilla has been ignoring their core user base going as far as laying off development teams working on Firefox components in the name of cost saving while they try to diversify income to support the rest of Mozilla (which makes basically nothing) yet they've retain their own Google search deal with lower user share for At this p…

I thought you added some zeroes by mistake. $15 Billions, wow.

Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#75

Yeaaaah, no thank you. > while keeping your privacy in mind. Doesn't mean it's maintained with reasonable assurance. Who is even asking for these features? The majority of firefox users I know are very privacy conscious. Is a little address bar feature really going to attract more people to use firefox?

Ads and privacy just do not belong and cannot be together. Why…

Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#76
post #75

Yeaaaah, no thank you. > while keeping your privacy in mind. Doesn't mean it's maintained with reasonable assurance. Who is even asking for these features? The majority of firefox users I know are very privacy conscious. Is a little address bar feature really going to attract more people to use firefox?

Ads and privacy just do not belong and cannot be together. Why…

Of course they go can together. Ads can be coupled with the content rather than the user, as they are in print, on the radio and on TV. What is incompatible with privacy is user stalking -- i.e. surveillance in the name of monitoring/improving ad effectiveness.

Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#77
post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Advertising is fundamentally malicious.

I believe that advertising could be used maliciously but I don't believe advertising is inherently malicious.

Maybe not inherently, but in practice, it is. Pretty much all ads are forms of emotional manipulation (FOMO, artificial status boosters, nurturing insecurities about life, body image, or career) or self-serving statistics and figures. The only ads that aren't malicious are independent consumer test reports, and they're only independent if the original manufacturer didn't pay for them. And if we accept that advertising is malicious by default, all attempts to improve the reach or effectiveness of ads can only be a net negative to society.

And that's not even touching on the entire surveillance infrastructure that has been constructed in the name of advertising, which we can similarly classify as malicious.

Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#78
post #9

I'm largely indifferent as I don't use Firefox but find it irksome that they are routinely touted as the torchbearers of privacy in the browser world.

This doesn't violate privacy. But it is very very annoying.

Until you type a username or a password.

Re: Firefox Suggest (address bar based ads, currently limited to US)

#80

For revenue they should sell naming rights to their release versions like stadium naming rights. The name will also be in the executable "Firefox: vX.X TikTok"

"Damn, the Pepsi(TM) patch really leaks memory and crashes frequently."

Seems like a recipe for bad publicity when ever there is an issue with a specific version.

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