As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.
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A fork from firefox, stripping it regularly of the add-tech, updating only from its own trusted source. Basically a open source project were the downstream is considered hostile.
That's unsustainable. It's what some projects already try to do with Chromium, and it just doesn't work: every time Google steers a bit more towards evil, the downstream burden increases significantly, and sooner or later the bad patches creep in anyway. There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters.
> There is an institutional problem at Mozilla, we should focus on fixing that rather than trying to come up with even more complex sticking plasters.
How do you fix that from the outside if not by forking or at least using a different Browser to make it clear that the current behavior is unacceptable.
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#403As someone who has used Firefox since v0.* I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. > relevant suggestions from our trusted partners The suggestions are not relevant to, and the partners not trusted by, me.
> I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. That is exactly the problem I have with it - weasel words and euphemisms; FF is scoring an own-goal here and eroding trust. Why not just tell it like it is. "We need funding and are lining up deals with third parties to display their ads/messaging in the address bar search. We vet these third parties by holding them contractually to these standard…
> Why not just tell it like it is.
Indeed. Mozilla should be honest. That's what builds trust.
We all know they need money, so if this gives them money to improve FF, fine by me. But they need to quit the marketing bullshit-speak.
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#404Can they just have me pay them $10 a month so we don’t have to deal with this kind of shit? I pay that for my IDE, and the browser is arguably more important.
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#405No thank you. I really like Firefox but maybe it would be time to move on to Brave. It’s a shame because I want to support an alternative rendering engine besides Chrome so Google doesn’t control the whole Internet. Do they need me to pay? I would 100% pay a reasonable annual subscription for a browser that works for me and not advertisers. Maybe $30 per year?
Brave literally has built-in ads, except now you're supporting the Chromium engine dependency. What do you think you're improving on by switching to Brave?
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> I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. That is exactly the problem I have with it - weasel words and euphemisms; FF is scoring an own-goal here and eroding trust. Why not just tell it like it is. "We need funding and are lining up deals with third parties to display their ads/messaging in the address bar search. We vet these third parties by holding them contractually to these standard…
> and eroding trust. This is exactly the point why I left Google Chrome back then and considered FF as a good alternative. I didn't trust Google anymore. But now I face the same problem again, because I don't want these "features and trusted partners". I also don't want to have to justify over and over again why I don't want them. I just want a well-functioning and secure browser that people can trust.
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#407People still use Firefox ? I'm little surprised.
Librewolf, yes I can understand, but Firefox ?
Unfortunately, the day Mozilla die, Librewolf will follow (and Google will cry).
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#408It's a shame Mozilla is doing this. It's not the first insult to users/developers Mozilla has made, though they're still the less worst in the major browser developers.
I'm relatively okay with non-targeted advertising (in fact i'm strongly against it, but i respect their perspective). Just replace your Google partnership for default search engine with something else if it suits you.
But why on earth would my browser transmit all of my keystrokes in the URL bar to a third party?! That's an unexpected and very frightening development. That means a single centralized entity gets notice of all the websites i browse and queries i search for. All in all, this change means Firefox would no longer be better than Google from a privacy perspective.
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Yeah, it really sucks. I've been using Firefox for 15 years or so but this shit is just so discouraging. Can't we have one piece of good software that doesn't try to shove "relevant" "suggestions" from "trusted" "partners" down our throats? I just want a browser that isn't controlled by the ad mafia.
> Can't we have one piece of good software that doesn't try to shove "relevant" "suggestions" from "trusted" "partners" down our throats? If you pay for it, yeah. But you can't have that and have the software be £free to use
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#410Earlier quoted context omitted.
> I really, really, really dislike the language they have used lately. That is exactly the problem I have with it - weasel words and euphemisms; FF is scoring an own-goal here and eroding trust. Why not just tell it like it is. "We need funding and are lining up deals with third parties to display their ads/messaging in the address bar search. We vet these third parties by holding them contractually to these standard…
> and eroding trust. This is exactly the point why I left Google Chrome back then and considered FF as a good alternative. I didn't trust Google anymore. But now I face the same problem again, because I don't want these "features and trusted partners". I also don't want to have to justify over and over again why I don't want them. I just want a well-functioning and secure browser that people can trust.
> I just want a well-functioning and secure browser that people can trust.
You can't trust any of them. The real question is, who do you trust more? Google, Microsoft, Mozilla, Opera, Brave. You can't trust any of them, but you have to pick one.