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Post by seoulmetro »

indianpianist wrote: post #188
thepasswordis wrote: post #167

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

> Somebody got a new pizza oven for National pizza month There's a national pizza month?

There's a "day" or "month" for everything these days. It's just how globalisation blends with capitalism. People are more herd like than ever before.

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Post by ehsankia »

GrifMD wrote: post #36

I'm seeing an unusual amount of reddit style small comments on this outage, which I find strange. They're short and in the vein of "Facebook is down: good" or "Facebook is back up: damn nothing good lasts forever" I understand the distain for Facebook as a business, but still this is pretty low effort.

The top comment right now is about how the whole world feels like a better place during the downtime. Such a heavy eye roll reading that. We get it, most of us don't like FB either, but that's such a circlejerky comment.

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Post by tayistay »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
fleddr wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

Even with your feed I could see someone getting depressed if they couldn't afford vacations in Italy, hot air balloon rides, etc.

Anyway, maybe you're using Facebook correctly, but clearly enough of the world isn't to cause problems. Do you expect all those folks to change, or is it easier to regulate Facebook itself?

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Post by mynameisash »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
fleddr wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

I quit FB for a bit over a year then came back because I missed connecting with people. I was quickly shocked by what I was actually 'missing'. The thing that jumped out at me was a former elementary/high school classmate who was literally arguing for vehicular manslaughter (murder?) -- that protesters should be run over at high-speeds for blocking the freeway[0].

Now, that's one post from one person. Yes, it's an outlier, but there was a ton of truly corrosive shit people were posting. I quickly found that for me, getting out of FB altogether was the best option. I deleted my account a while back and I don't miss it.

I get that people can actively curate their feed and use FB as a tool for communication, but for me, that's far too much effort and wasn't worth it. I'm actually quite sad -- the promise of what FB could be falls far short of what it is.

[0] https://www.startribune.com/500-gather-near-u-of-m-to-protes...

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Post by [deleted] »

wly_cdgr wrote: post #223
prawn wrote: post #195

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I don't use Facebook so I'm only going by what I've seen from screenshots or over someone's shoulder. Isn't one part of the misery political posts from people you do know? e.g., extended family or old friends going off the deep end?

Don't be FB friends with your crazy family! Be FB friends with cool strangers

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Post by tayistay »

fleddr wrote: post #103
boplicity wrote: post #22

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

It's the aggregate experience is and its influence on society that is more important than the experience of an individual user.

Twitter may seem like more of a war zone, and that's possible, but you have to actually measure things. I suspect the dark corners of Facebook are darker than Twitter, because Facebook is more siloed.

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Post by tayistay »

entropyneur wrote: post #75

Wow, I never realized Facebook was causing so much psychological discomfort in so many people. Either we are using different Facebooks or you guys need therapy and do not track plugin.

Well you've been living under a rock I guess. Try reading all the recent WSJ articles. Many of us who despise Facebook deleted our accounts long ago.

Books to read:

- "Ten Arguments for Deleting Your Social Media Accounts Right Now"

- "Surveillance Capitalism"

- "The Attention Merchants"

And those aren't even the most scathing ones about Facebook.

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Post by sfblah »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
fleddr wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

Just out of curiosity, in that taxonomy how would you characterize Reddit?

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Post by yodsanklai »

thepasswordis wrote: post #167
fleddr wrote: post #103

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

I'm from the US and have the same experience. Just glancing at my feed it's: Somebody celebrating getting out of rehab. Somebody heading to Italy for vacation. Somebody going in a hot air balloon. Somebody going to Santa Fe for vacation and asking for things to do. Somebody said last night was one of the best nights of their life. Somebody sharing progress updates on their offgrid homestead. Somebody got a new pizza…

Same here. I'm not a FB fan but I still use it. I do have a few old friends or acquaintances who post pictures of their families and vacations. It's not the most intellectual content but it's certainly not toxic and it let me stay in touch with people.

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Post by kasajian »

fleddr wrote: post #103
boplicity wrote: post #22

During the time Facebook (and related properties) have been unavailable, I can't help but feel a little better about the world. There is so much hate, arguments, misinformation, angry, and harmful messaging on FB platforms. It's nice to know all of that crap is just....gone. At least for a little while.

It's interesting how Facebook experiences differ. To me it's a peaceful place showing mundane updates from friends and family, with zero politics. Plus, a bunch of niche hobby groups I subscribed, full of very kind and constructive people. The actual war zone to me is Twitter, not Facebook. I should add that I'm not from the US.

My experience on Facebook is the same, but I also have the same experience on Twitter. I follow really smart people who are in tech who have interesting things to say. That's all I see on Twitter.
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