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Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it

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I googled it and found some articles about it, link to one of them: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/03/22/iraq-war-... Now for more context why I did this: Back then when Bush started pushing for the war, I immediately considered him a liar, I am not from US, and from my perspective and from many people where I live, it was blatantly obvious he was lying, for example some of the "evidence" he used was ob…

> John Bolton just went and threatened his family This is outrageous. You can be enemies but family is forbidden area.

Good thing John Bolton was never put in a position of power ever again...

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>Frances Haugen: So, you know, you have your phone. You might see only 100 pieces of content if you sit and scroll on for, you know, five minutes. But Facebook has thousands of options it could show you. >The algorithm picks from those options based on the kind of content you've engaged with the most in the past. This is the primary reason I stopped using Facebook. I did everything I could to signal I did not wish to…

Have always been curious why people use Facebook. Personally I don't believe most of my life should ever concern most of my connections(to be clear, the people I know and know me too), so don't event mention those I've no idea who. I know quite a few people who will take pictures of what ever they are doing and share. They might think they are doing something fancy, I can get that. But, how does that concern other pe…

As someone who has moved to the middle east (from the bay area), a large portion of this society heavily relies on Facebook, particularly for FB groups and also FB marketplace. Aside from that, this entire society basically functions on Instagram for any news / personal connections, but as it relates to Facebook, having groups is a great way to connect with people and ask questions and since we don't really have a good alternative to Craigslist here, FB marketplace fills that void.

That said, I'm sure people here use Facebook for other reasons, but anecdotally, this is what I'm seeing. Instagram and Facebook aside, the most used app I've found here is WhatsApp, so the society here is deeply integrated into the Facebook web of services

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Aside from the mountains of odorless excrement I started seeing on facebook, this was the other reason I quit. It became unusable because once I scrolled past something it was next to impossible to find it again by either scrolling up or searching. Instead of seeing what people were up to I started seeing things they thought would keep me on the platform for as long as possible. Looking at it now, at least to me, it…

I'm curious if when most people say they "quit" Facebook they removed their account or if they just stopped using it. It feels like most people I know has stopped using it, except for messenger, but almost no-one has actually removed or closed down their account.

You can "disable" the account and only messenger will still work. I've done that since my parents only use messenger.

Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it

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I'm curious if when most people say they "quit" Facebook they removed their account or if they just stopped using it. It feels like most people I know has stopped using it, except for messenger, but almost no-one has actually removed or closed down their account.

I did a full closure of my account. I have not received any emails in about 18 months, when I closed it. I'm scared to even attempt to login to verify that it is actually closed, for fear that FB will somehow interpret that as a desire for the account to reopen, and do so, despite that I did close it fully (and did not merely "deactivate" it or whatever they call the other option that does not really close it).

You're lucky. I deactivated back in January and I think I did a "log in with facebook" button once and now facebook seems to have re-activated my account implicitly.

Also they send me click-baity emails like "John Doe has posted a status update!"

Heck, they've even started TEXTING me to lure me back.

I'm dreading having to log back in to try to figure out how to get them to stop trying to contact me.

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I think misinformation and conspiracy theories on these platforms are a huge problem. A few years ago, some bad actors were successful in convincing Congress of a crazy conspiracy theory that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction. The results were far-reaching. The US violated the UN charter and launched a disastrous war in Iraq where millions of Iraqis were killed, injured and displaced. They used a platfor…

> A few years ago, some bad actors were successful in convincing Congress of a crazy conspiracy theory that Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction ... They used a platform called The New York Times to spread their lies. Citation needed that this was a knowing conspiracy as opposed to bad intelligence. Setting that aside, there's a big difference between an institution like the NY Times getting it wrong on occ…

>Citation needed that this was a knowing conspiracy as opposed to bad intelligence.

There's bad intelligence, and there's intelligence so bad and with evidence so thin or nonexistent that you know it's a fabrication.

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> John Bolton just went and threatened his family This is outrageous. You can be enemies but family is forbidden area.

Good thing John Bolton was never put in a position of power ever again...

Yeah, imagine after this incident nominating this guy as the National Security Advisor or something similar? Yikes.

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This is always disclosed when a company files to go public. It's not secret. It's actually good for long term shareholder value in most cases.

Weeeeeell... it isn't a secret, that is true. And technically speaking there is no problem here. But it is easy to imagine that this happened to be able to hoodwink someone with the "Zuckerburg only controls 10% of the shares!" style soundbites without being forced to point out that means control of the company. Realistically this practice should probably be banned on the basis that Facebook could achieve a similar o…

Berkshire has different classes of share so that people could invest at something lower than $250k+ a share (Buffett didn't want to split the stock).

Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it

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Have always been curious why people use Facebook. Personally I don't believe most of my life should ever concern most of my connections(to be clear, the people I know and know me too), so don't event mention those I've no idea who. I know quite a few people who will take pictures of what ever they are doing and share. They might think they are doing something fancy, I can get that. But, how does that concern other pe…

As someone who has moved to the middle east (from the bay area), a large portion of this society heavily relies on Facebook, particularly for FB groups and also FB marketplace. Aside from that, this entire society basically functions on Instagram for any news / personal connections, but as it relates to Facebook, having groups is a great way to connect with people and ask questions and since we don't really have a go…

Facebook is like an octopus on your brain.

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Hit the nail on the head there. It’s impossible to actually get what was the damn promise of Facebook to begin with, and instead everyone gets practically drugged with crap because it makes Mark more money.

Facebook was actually pretty good when it just showed me my friends posts and nothing else. But when they moved to their 'timeline' and started fiddling with algorithms that try to decide what I want to see, they got it all wrong and it became a chore to wade through it all. I don't understand how they think an algorithm can decide better what I want to see than me myself (by adding friend and blocking the ones that…

Same with Twitter.

Re: Facebook whistleblower says she wants to fix company, not harm it

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Sorry but nothing she shared is incriminating. It’s just the challenges internally that Facebook has to deal with given their scale and how much content is shared every second. She makes a false choice that somehow Facebook can 100% make it safe but they just choose not to. It doesn’t matter who regulates it, who is in charge, the technology aspect of figuring out what is “dangerous” content and what isn’t is still i…

What right does Facebook have to exist at the scale it does?

Let's say that Facebook was killed off by the government. Does that mean no more social networks?

The problems that were 'leaked' are public problems that any such company at scale deals with. They are problems that banning Facebook won't solve.

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