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> How can I stop companies from getting my location data? The steps they list only cover gps data. In my final year at uni, during the capstone fair, I recall one group built a tracking system that relied on Bluetooth or wifi or something (maybe cellular signals?) to identify and track people indoors. I think they pitched it to be used in malls or airports, but really could work anywhere. It was surprisingly robust.…

https://calyxos.org uses Mozilla's location services

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How does data get off my smartphone? * Apps * Carrier geolocation * Bluetooth tracking Are there any others? If I disable location tracking then am I safe? I don't install crappy vendor apps on my smartphone to begin with.

You'll need a new SIM and handset every couple months, too.

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How does data get off my smartphone? * Apps * Carrier geolocation * Bluetooth tracking Are there any others? If I disable location tracking then am I safe? I don't install crappy vendor apps on my smartphone to begin with.

Carrier geolocation is there whether you like it or not and at this point I think legislation is the only solution to making location logs illegal to keep for governments and companies. It's not really being created by your smartphone but more like observed by the carriers cell phone towers so they can do handoffs and a side effect of how the network layer works.

Also stuff like iBeacon is pretty much impossible to avoid, it still works even when bluetooth is completely turned off. I got an iBeacon based alert when I walked into an apple store with bluetooth turned off for example, and there is no setting to turn off iBeacon tracking.

Google is worse in other ways, it's incredibly infuriating.

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> How can I stop companies from getting my location data? The steps they list only cover gps data. In my final year at uni, during the capstone fair, I recall one group built a tracking system that relied on Bluetooth or wifi or something (maybe cellular signals?) to identify and track people indoors. I think they pitched it to be used in malls or airports, but really could work anywhere. It was surprisingly robust.…

WiFi on phone sends periodic pings to discover new access points. MAC is unique...

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No need to pay me that much, I'd be willing to sell for a couple million. Just pm me

Multibillion divided by billions of users = a couple of dollars. Yes, a couple of dollars per user is what is at the root of this privacy nightmare. And guess who is ultimately paying this price anyway.

Carriers chase the god of ARPU like their lives depend on it, and this ARPU gain is pure profit.

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How does data get off my smartphone? * Apps * Carrier geolocation * Bluetooth tracking Are there any others? If I disable location tracking then am I safe? I don't install crappy vendor apps on my smartphone to begin with.

Certainly the phone manufacturer (and OS provider if different) can have a go at anything they want.

I'm not sure what all counts as "getting data off" the phone, but some other methods of smartphone tracking:

  - wifi (sometimes even if wifi is "off")
  - EXIF on photos you take and share
  - QR code usage
  - public USB charging ports
Then there's cross-tracking by other means. It's likely someone has enough data to associate your phone with your credit or debit accounts, or a public transit card, or vehicle plate numbers & toll tags, or with your face and voice.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

GNU didn’t need to do this and the App Library for GNU/Linux is often more complete.

did our ancestors have GPS enabled phones when they started making trans-atlantic trips? What about my grandma in 1970 packing up 6 kids in a station wagon and driving somewhere on vacation? You can get by without google maps and google even.

It doesn't matter about what your ancestors got by with, but how close you are to baseline effectiveness as a human being in order to keep up with the society you live in.

If you are a weirdo who is not available to communicate with like everyone else, people stop being your friend, you economic opportunities reduce and so on. If your more late because you got lost more often, because you don't use gps, people don't want to associate with you as much and so on.

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> How can I stop companies from getting my location data? The steps they list only cover gps data. In my final year at uni, during the capstone fair, I recall one group built a tracking system that relied on Bluetooth or wifi or something (maybe cellular signals?) to identify and track people indoors. I think they pitched it to be used in malls or airports, but really could work anywhere. It was surprisingly robust.…

Your shoes could have embedded RFID tags (perhaps originally intended as a payment/anti-theft method by the store you bought them from) that can be used to fingerprint/track you everywhere.
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