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It's more like a trillion dollar market. The actual players are Google, Facebook, and Apple... these startups are just location data gnats.

Location data is probably the single best demographic info to have to make money, and at least 3 companies in the world have basically everyone's phone bugged. Ads, maps, social... all totally dependent on location data from users.

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It's more like a trillion dollar market. The actual players are Google, Facebook, and Apple... these startups are just location data gnats. Location data is probably the single best demographic info to have to make money, and at least 3 companies in the world have basically everyone's phone bugged. Ads, maps, social... all totally dependent on location data from users.

When I lived in my car in SF a waymo would pass me right when I left and at many key intersections and at my destinations. I know it was not random but I don’t go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out how they did it. If I get proof then I’d be vindicated. I tweeted about it as a human rights violation often, having no way to retreat. I long ago took it as a given that we have no privacy. I can only imagine where the data comes from and goes and how it is augmented.

Why would they care about me? Anti-terrorism, anti-competition, who knows. I tried not to think that much about it. I simply noticed the extreme regularity and improbability if it and thought in those terms and went about my limited life.

The vans are very menacing with their spinning sensors and black helmet, I’d hate to have been an actual criminal. Built charachter ignoring them.

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Duh, both EU+US needs groundbreaking legislation in this area.

I guess US is not as motivated as the EU, so, they'll follow, as usual.

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Its good because that is what is paying for all these apps.

No. It is cancerous, because it erodes our privacy and degrades our user experience.

And for developers, you are forced to enter the spy-on-your-users rat race because everyone expects free shit.

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post #3

It's more like a trillion dollar market. The actual players are Google, Facebook, and Apple... these startups are just location data gnats. Location data is probably the single best demographic info to have to make money, and at least 3 companies in the world have basically everyone's phone bugged. Ads, maps, social... all totally dependent on location data from users.

When I lived in my car in SF a waymo would pass me right when I left and at many key intersections and at my destinations. I know it was not random but I don’t go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out how they did it. If I get proof then I’d be vindicated. I tweeted about it as a human rights violation often, having no way to retreat. I long ago took it as a given that we have no privacy. I can only imagine wh…

How could it not be random, dare I ask?

I don't agree with the current directions of technology in terms of surveillance and data collection for private and powerful interests, but I find it far more likely that living in SF you'd be exposed to more mobile Waymo platforms that just happen to be collecting data regularly as part of engineering work, data collection, testing, and so on.

No offense but why would Waymo care about you in particular unless you were some significantly important/critical former disgruntled employee or risk/potential asset to their business?

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post #4

Its good because that is what is paying for all these apps.

No. It is cancerous, because it erodes our privacy and degrades our user experience. And for developers, you are forced to enter the spy-on-your-users rat race because everyone expects free shit.

> And for developers, you are forced to enter the spy-on-your-users rat race because everyone expects free shit.

I would happily pay for a quality product that respected my privacy.

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It's more like a trillion dollar market. The actual players are Google, Facebook, and Apple... these startups are just location data gnats. Location data is probably the single best demographic info to have to make money, and at least 3 companies in the world have basically everyone's phone bugged. Ads, maps, social... all totally dependent on location data from users.

When I lived in my car in SF a waymo would pass me right when I left and at many key intersections and at my destinations. I know it was not random but I don’t go down the rabbit hole of trying to figure out how they did it. If I get proof then I’d be vindicated. I tweeted about it as a human rights violation often, having no way to retreat. I long ago took it as a given that we have no privacy. I can only imagine wh…

...or you were both using GMaps/Waze to navigate to your destination
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