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I'm pretty sure it's just that they need their mask wherever they're going and it's easier to hop on and hop off with it than stow it away.
Here we had a near-perfect right wing clickbait article, attacking college students, the California left, mask wearers, and cyclists. And you had to come in and ruin it...
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Traffic and road infrastructure for cycling and cars is radically different from the US. Has anyone attempted to compare cycling injury and death data while controlling for street design, relevant laws, and driver behavior? > we are talking about optimizing a number that is already very low. In the US, we have almost zero change of optimizing the factors that are better at reducing not only bicycling but traffic inju…
It's difficult to compare it if you also don't compare the culture. If you look are /r/idiotsincars, most of the commenters from the US would be treated as murderous psychopaths, as they can't comprehend people can ride bikes for anything else than sports and they are considered to be "blocking" 4 lane highways.
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The risk of contracting COVID at all? Maybe. The risk of harm from COVID as serious as a head injury? No way.
> The risk of harm from COVID as serious as a head injury? No way. Uhm, what? COVID can kill you and if it doesn't kill you can leave you with what, so far, looks like life-long disability. Sounds about like what a head injury can do.
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The statistics don’t lie. Biking in the Netherlands is incredibly safe even without helmet wearing. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S09257... Turns out there are other ways to make cycling safe. One could argue that helmet wearing might make it even safer, but we are talking about optimizing a number that is already very low. I’ve been to Stanford before and the campus is pretty car free. It is…
Biking could indeed be even safer in the Netherlands if people wore helmets: https://www.liebertpub.com/doi/10.1089/neur.2020.0010 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00014... Arguing that it’s a small optimization is one thing, but that doesn’t mean it’s “not needed”.
Virtually everything can be made safer, including sleeping and breathing. You don't have to prove it. You have to prove its cost-effectiveness.
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To extend it to covid, the vaccine doesn’t fully prevent transmission either. It reduces it (likely, I don’t think we’ve seen a robust study in this department), but since it’s not enough to reach herd immunity this point is moot The argument has now become you’re taking up hospital beds because you didn’t get the vaccine. The same logic applies to not wearing a helmet. And to take it further: are we ok with unvaccin…
The rate at which people catch covid and get hospitalized is incomparably higher to the rate that people are getting brain injuries from riding a bike. You can use the same "philosophical experiment" to ban being fat or drinking alcohol.
No, you can't. At least not unless you ignore research and still believe that weight gain and addiction are purely choices and can be morally condemned. See e.g. Addiction is a brain disease, and it matters: Leshner, A. I. (1997). Addiction is a brain disease, and it matters. Science (New York, N.Y.), 278(5335), 45–47. https://doi.org/10.1126/science.278.5335.45
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True, but the potential for needing medical care, hospitalization, or funeral services which could result in someone else being unable to receive care is similar.
Ah yes, the famous bike crash pandemic of 1954.
Right now it’s likely better to have people wearing masks too often than the other way around.
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> The risk of harm from COVID as serious as a head injury? No way. Uhm, what? COVID can kill you and if it doesn't kill you can leave you with what, so far, looks like life-long disability. Sounds about like what a head injury can do.
We are talking about college students.
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To extend it to covid, the vaccine doesn’t fully prevent transmission either. It reduces it (likely, I don’t think we’ve seen a robust study in this department), but since it’s not enough to reach herd immunity this point is moot The argument has now become you’re taking up hospital beds because you didn’t get the vaccine. The same logic applies to not wearing a helmet. And to take it further: are we ok with unvaccin…
The rate at which people catch covid and get hospitalized is incomparably higher to the rate that people are getting brain injuries from riding a bike. You can use the same "philosophical experiment" to ban being fat or drinking alcohol.
To get ahead of this, I’m probably going to respond we should focus on combatting obesity over anything you can propose. The rate it’s consuming both hospital and other resources dwarfs nearly any other condition aside from old age.
For those who say "you don't need a helmet on campus," there's a simple science-based way to test your theory: Look at the stats on brain injuries for bicycle accidents on campus. [1] has anecdotes, but no stats, unfortunately. You have other bikes to collide with, you have people crossing the path, and yes, there are cars on campus. I've driven there. [1] https://transportation.stanford.edu/bicycle/learn-about-bike.…
> Look at the stats on brain injuries for bicycle accidents on campus.
That's not science, that's looking. What you have to do is compare stats of the results and frequency of accidents with helmets and accidents without. There have been very good statistical cases made that the accidents that helmets protect against aren't the accidents that bicyclists get in (unlike the situation with motorcyclists, for example.)