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Re: Winter is coming

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Post by Jach »

chailatte wrote: post #40
hnsmurf wrote: post #39

I'm not so sure. I think the broader economic forces may help tech companies rather than hurt. No matter what happens, America (and the world) will still have a lot of very wealthy people and institutions. Those people need to put their money somewhere. The stock market is scary, bonds and banks don't pay anything. If you had $100 million tomorrow to invest what would you do with it? I'd start looking for startups. 1…

I would invest in gold. No hassle. No risk since every country is printing money and putting savers at risk. Doubled in price in dollar in two years thus far.

I'd sooner get bitcoins than gold. =P No risk since there's no government involved.~ Doubled multiple times in the last several months. (Recently halved a time or two though. :( ) No middle-men or scammy "buy all your gold here and then we'll go out of business and you'll never get it back!" businesses if you just want to mine everything.

Re: Winter is coming

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Post by checker »

kragen wrote: post #55
checker wrote: post #44

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Gold is the safe bet, but some people like to diversify with some riskier investments.

That's a peculiar sense of "safe". The value of gold fluctuates substantially over time, even over fairly short periods of time. Sometimes (like the last decade) it goes up; other times (like most of the 1980s and some of the 1990s) it goes down. It's easy to lose half of what you invested; if you time it right, you can lose seven-eighths. The peculiar sense in which gold is "safe" is that it tends to go down just as…

Thanks for the explanation. I guess I was repeating what I've heard from the talking heads on TV that really provide popcorn financial advice.

Re: Winter is coming

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Post by bluekeybox »

geboyr wrote: post #77
bluekeybox wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Beware of schemes that claim that your participation in them will help change the world but which come with no money attached. One is only capable of doing great good if one is also capable of doing great evil. More simply: to do a lot of good (not just a teeny tiny bit), one has to be capable of something that affects real world, ergo one has to be powerful. Capability is closely linked with power (and, in a Western…

But it's not impossible to be powerful without turning your immediate work into money. You might be able to help others make/turn their work into money, which makes me go off on a tangent in my head about an algorithm that could calculate how much power one truly had based on n degrees of separation out from their work.

> You might be able to help others make/turn their work into money

Of course it's possible but it introduces a level of indirectness. Once you have indirectness, it becomes harder to measure your impact. Fields where one's impact is hard to measure tend to attract BS artists who use the ambiguity to their advantage, to claim that they are worth more than they really are.

The algorithm you are thinking of will fail unless it has some way to empirically measure impact, in which case the algorithm would be trivial.

Re: Winter is coming

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Post by ethnomusicolog »

grandalf wrote: post #35

Check out my counter-argument: Why are startups hot now? Not because the economy is good or because the startup ideas people are having are particularly good, but because risk seeking investors are trying to shove capital anywhere they can. After the crash of 2008 lots of avenues (created by Wall Street post Financial Modernization Act) to invest this capital were closed, and the growth of the startup scene, particul…

The other comments are really spot on (Yc as a VC incubator and cost being almost neagative except for the opportunity cost that get it back to zero), But the most often overlooked point is the fact that, thanks to the "almighty facebook", an previously unbelievable share of the world population is now trained and ready to use interface tools that belonged until know the geek realm. The barrier to user adoption for software as been reduced to zero: anyone is ready to use software as long as it feels a need.

Re: Winter is coming

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Post by fdedevillany »

chailatte wrote: post #40
hnsmurf wrote: post #39

I'm not so sure. I think the broader economic forces may help tech companies rather than hurt. No matter what happens, America (and the world) will still have a lot of very wealthy people and institutions. Those people need to put their money somewhere. The stock market is scary, bonds and banks don't pay anything. If you had $100 million tomorrow to invest what would you do with it? I'd start looking for startups. 1…

I would invest in gold. No hassle. No risk since every country is printing money and putting savers at risk. Doubled in price in dollar in two years thus far.

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Re: Winter is coming

#86

Post by fdedevillany »

chailatte wrote: post #40
hnsmurf wrote: post #39

I'm not so sure. I think the broader economic forces may help tech companies rather than hurt. No matter what happens, America (and the world) will still have a lot of very wealthy people and institutions. Those people need to put their money somewhere. The stock market is scary, bonds and banks don't pay anything. If you had $100 million tomorrow to invest what would you do with it? I'd start looking for startups. 1…

I would invest in gold. No hassle. No risk since every country is printing money and putting savers at risk. Doubled in price in dollar in two years thus far.

ONE STEP TO YOUR GOLD RESERVE

DEAR SIR/MADAM

  In cooperation with the German company KB - VISION, I offer and suggest an investment in the safest and most stable currency in the world, which has existed for 2600 years, gold currency-kinebar.
  As you already know, the economic crisis is present all over the world. Real Estate Market, Securities Market and the banks find themselves faced with a difficult test. Consequently any investment risk for people and firms. I advise to my relatives and friends that they create their own personal gold reserve with gold currency which is suitable for everyone. History teaches us that the safest long-term investing in gold.
WHY GO FOR THE GOLD CURRENCY?

- oldest and most currency in the world - safest way to keep the value - without inflation - resistance to reform money - usable all over the world - the only way to preserve property - resistant to crises - the most anonymous currency in the world - without the possibility of devaluation

KB - VISION OFFERS THEIR CUSTOMERS THE FOLLOWING GUARANTEE:

- anonymity - own gold mine, own production of gold, own mint gold - possibilty of storage of gold (100% anonymous) - each of our client get the personal number of depot - possibilty of delivery all over the world - each gram of gold is located in a protected disc which also contains a certificate and the purity of gold (999,9%) - purity of gold is 999,9% - our golden tiles are redeemable all over the world - each of our customer or business partner, we open website for free; which is accessible only to him - availability continuous of your stock

HOW TO INVEST IN GOLD CURRENCY? Thing is quite simple: It's just enought to contact me and then you can say: THE FUTURE IS NOW!

WHY CHOOSE KB-VISION? You can create your own gold reserve which is the safest investment for you and your family.

  Our company also offers an excellent earning opportunity. In addition to become our client, you can also become our business partnerif you want.
SYSTEM IS SIMPLE AND ALLOWS: a.) independent and easy way to work (online system) b.) shopping-sales worldwide (online system) c.) fast and good earnings d.) rapid progress in the commission system

  Invest in gold currency to protect against hyperinflation.
IF YOU HAVE OWN GOLD, YOU ALWAYS HAVE MONEY!

Looking forward to your positive response, I wish you a beautiful sunny day and all the best things come true.

Best regards, FEDERICO KB - VISION Ljubljana, Slovenia- Europa

link for free registration: www.kb-vision.com/?s=66992

my contacts: tel: +38670225417 e-mail address: fdevillanij@mail.com

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