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Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by adventured »

scrollaway wrote: post #16

I really want this to exist for Belgium. Right now the public transport prices are absurd here... An all year pass for just the train in all of Belgium ranges in the 10k eur/year, and there is no national metro+bus+tram access (just Brussels is 700 EUR / year for that with no access to other cities). It's absurd and caused by fragmentation of services between Flanders, wallonia and Brussels with no coordination betwe…

As an American I had always heard that public transportation was super inexpensive in essentially all of Western Europe. Is that not the case generally?

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by ratww »

rob74 wrote: post #22
LittleNemoInS wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just to clarify : In Switzerland, one can buy a CA Travelcard (for CHF3860 a year, approximately $3850). With this card, one can travel on (nearly) all public transports in Switzerland (trains, coaches, subways, trams, etc.) free of charge. Since the public transportation system is very good, it's a good way to travel.

Ok, so the Austrian version costs less than a third of that for a considerably larger country. And the public transportation system is pretty good in Austria too...

In Germany it's also around 4k. EUR 4,027 for the BahnCard 100. We're much bigger than Switzerland, though.

https://www.bahn.com/en/offers/bahncard/bahncard_100-conditi...

EDIT: I can't find info on whether the German one covers city transportation... maybe it doesn't! - EDIT2: It does according to reply!

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by lonesword »

locallost wrote: post #13

If it's really also for long distance rail, that's a lot of value. For comparison, the German Railway has something similar (but I think only for the railway) and it costs easily 3x as much. It's a bigger country but regardless. I live and work in a smaller city where I don't really need public transport, but when I was working in a city near me, the monthly ticket for the two cities was more than this. I don't know…

Deutsche Bahn's BahnCard 100 [1] is around 4k euros per year and gives unlimited access to all DB trains as well as a city pass to around 110 towns in Germany. The city pass does't help if you have to commute to a suburb, but it's still pretty useful (though pricey) IMO.

>but when I was working in a city near me, the monthly ticket for the two cities was more than this

I commute between Cologne and Aachen, and the monthly ticket would have been around 288 (per month) euros if I had to fund it myself. My employer got me a "job ticket" that made the cost of this commute to around 98 euros per month. However, for your employer to apply for a jobticket they should employ a minimum number of people who would avail that offer (15 in Aachen, if I remember correctly). I have no idea why a regular person can't apply for this ticket if they really do commute the same route daily.

[1] https://www.bahn.com/en/offers/bahncard/bahncard_100-conditi...

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by [deleted] »

quadrifoliate wrote: post #30

Next stop: Just make public transport free for all reasonably permanent residents (for example, you could get a free ticket for next year when you file your taxes). Anyone who rides public transport instead of expensive and polluting cars is doing a service for the environment.

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Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by woodlander87 »

I lived in Austria for a couple of years in the late 2000s. They had an under 25 years of age ticket that was similar to this, but was very inexpensive. I think less than 50 Euros. It may have only been during the summer months though. Either way I traveled all over Austria and it cost me almost nothing. Wish I could be 25 again just for that.

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by turbinerneiter »

In Germany you can buy a Bahncard 100 for roughly 4k, which allows you to take any Deutsche Bahn train at any time.

Not sure if the cost should scale with size of counrty, but I guess 4x is roughly reasonable between Austria and Germany. Austria probably is more expensive to build railroad in, since it's mostly mountains.

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by adrianN »

turbinerneiter wrote: post #36

In Germany you can buy a Bahncard 100 for roughly 4k, which allows you to take any Deutsche Bahn train at any time. Not sure if the cost should scale with size of counrty, but I guess 4x is roughly reasonable between Austria and Germany. Austria probably is more expensive to build railroad in, since it's mostly mountains.

The Bahncard 100 doesn't include all public transport though. Austria also invests about twice as much (per capita) into rail infrastructure as Germany.

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by [deleted] »

huhtenberg wrote: post #5
the_mitsuhiko wrote: post #2

Some context here: previously there was no single ticket you could get for public transport in Austria like you could in Switzerland. There was a yearly ticket for the national rail services but that was it. With this ticket you can hop into any public transport now from long distance rail to local city trams.

> from long distance rail to local city trams. That's the part that makes a system like this subjectively unfair. If my daily commute is a handful of bus stops and that guy's is a train for an hour from another city, then I am basically funding his commute by overpaying for my pass... even if it's cheaper to ride my bus with a pass than to buy a ticket for every ride. Edit - I read the website as saying that this is…

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Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by akiselev »

adventured wrote: post #31
scrollaway wrote: post #16

I really want this to exist for Belgium. Right now the public transport prices are absurd here... An all year pass for just the train in all of Belgium ranges in the 10k eur/year, and there is no national metro+bus+tram access (just Brussels is 700 EUR / year for that with no access to other cities). It's absurd and caused by fragmentation of services between Flanders, wallonia and Brussels with no coordination betwe…

As an American I had always heard that public transportation was super inexpensive in essentially all of Western Europe. Is that not the case generally?

It's cheap relative to $2/liter fuel, huge taxes and registration fees on vehicles, parking, and so on. It's still scaled to the relative cost of living which can be high in major cities.

Re: Klimaticket: All public transport in Austria with a single ticket for 1095 EUR/y

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Post by tyingq »

Interesting. The "family supplement" feels like it could use some work though. You pay €110 extra, and up to 4 of your children (<15 years old) can travel with you. But your partner isn't included...they would also have to pay the extra if they ever planned on being with the kids, and without you. And the kids have to buy a ticket if traveling alone. It's not expensive per se, but it seems like a narrow set of uses.
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